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Great Women in Compliance

Great Women in Compliance: A Next-Gen Video of Ethics and Compliance

In this episode of the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, Lisa Fine and Sarah Hadden (Gen X) are joined by Rebecca Anker and Emily Frank for an engaging conversation on what the next generation needs from ethics and compliance. Rebecca, Gen-Z, and Emily, a millennial, share candid insights shaped by their experiences as part of the emerging workforce.

The discussion explores the real-life impact of generational influences—from questioning hierarchy and outdated practices to prioritizing transparency, usability, and minimizing the traditional reliance on hierarchy. Rebecca and Emily discuss how the rising stars in the profession are taking the evolution to a collaborative, service-oriented function that partners with the business and clearly explains the why behind policies and decisions to new levels.

They also discuss current topics, including creative, shorter training approaches, balancing regulatory requirements with innovation, responsible AI use, and rethinking speak-up programs. They discuss why language matters, why “whistleblower” may no longer resonate, and how normalizing the act of raising concerns can strengthen speak-up culture across generations.

The episode wraps with practical advice from Rebecca and Emily for more “seasoned” compliance professionals to stay curious and engage with new voices and ideas. It is exciting to see where they and their peers will take the profession. 

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The Compliance Life

Katie Smith on helping the next generation of compliance professionals


The Compliance Life details the journey to and in the role of a Chief Compliance Officer. How does one come to sit in the CCO chair? What are some of the skills a CCO needs to success navigate the compliance waters in any company? What are some of the top challenges CCOs have faced and how did they meet them? These questions and many others will be explored in this new podcast series. Over four episodes each month on The Compliance Life, I visit with one current or former CCO to explore their journey to the CCO chair. This month, my guest is Katie Smith who is the Vice President for Ethics at Assurance.  She previously served as Assistant Vice President and Chief Ethics Officer for USAA and Executive Vice President and Chief Compliance and Ethics Officer at Convercent.
Katie is passionate about compliance, having worked in the field for 20 years, building high-performing teams and increasing employee engagement by up to 300%. She has proven expertise in building and promoting talent, creating a trust-based culture, anti-corruption, code of conduct, conflict of interest, marketing internal programs, training and awareness, investigation excellence, data privacy and process efficiency. She is a much sought after public speaker and contributor featured in Wall Street Journal, Time, Fortune, NBC and Compliance Week. Katie’s commitment to the compliance profession is well as she currently sits on the Board of Directors of the Ethics and Compliance Initiative (ECI).
In this second episode, we take up the some of the skills, tasks and roles that Katie used in her CCO/CECO roles. She discusses how the compliance profession and compliance professionals have evolved over the past two decades. We move into some of the challenges Ethics and Compliance functions face in the Covid-19 world. We conclude with some of Katie’s thoughts on how persons just getting into the compliance field can garner mentors.