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Celebrating 300 Episodes of Great Women in Compliance: A Movement, Not Just a Podcast

Reaching 300 episodes is no small feat in the world of podcasting. It takes vision. It takes discipline. It takes community. Most of all, it takes purpose. The Great Women in Compliance (GWIC) podcast has reached that remarkable milestone, and it is worth pausing to celebrate what this achievement truly represents. This is not simply the longevity of a show. It is the sustained elevation of voices that has reshaped the compliance profession.

From its founding by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley to its current hosting team of Lisa Fine, Hemma Lomax, Sarah Hadden, and Ellen Hunt, GWIC has become far more than a podcast. It has become a platform, a mentoring network, and a cornerstone of the compliance community. As part of the Compliance Podcast Network, I am proud to say it stands as one of the most impactful and influential voices in our profession.

The Vision of the Founders

When Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley launched GWIC, they did so with a simple but powerful idea: compliance needed more visible female leadership, more shared stories, and more authentic conversations. Compliance has long been a profession filled with talented, capable, and principled women. Yet historically, their voices were not always amplified equally. The founders recognized that gap and moved to close it.

They did not create a show focused narrowly on technical guidance. They created a forum for professional development, ethical leadership, resilience, career navigation, and community building. They humanized compliance. That matters because compliance is often framed in terms of policies, controls, investigations, and enforcement actions. Great Women in Compliance reframed the conversation around leadership journeys, decision-making under pressure, cultural intelligence, and personal growth. Three hundred episodes later, that founding vision continues to define the show.

The Evolution of Leadership

As the podcast matured, leadership transitioned in a way that mirrors the very principles the show promotes: succession, collaboration, and shared stewardship. Today, the podcast is hosted by Lisa Fine, joined by Hemma Lomax, Sarah Hadden, and Ellen Hunt. Each brings a distinct voice and perspective to the table.

Hemma Lomax contributes a global compliance lens, grounded in regulatory rigor and practical implementation. Sarah Hadden brings strategic governance insight and a board-facing perspective that resonates deeply with senior leaders. Ellen Hunt offers a powerful blend of ethics, integrity, and operational expertise that connects culture to controls. Lisa Fine is well, Lisa Fine, a woman who, along with Mary Shirley, changed the world of compliance.

This team dynamic demonstrates an important aspect of modern compliance leadership: it is not hierarchical. It is collaborative. The podcast models what strong compliance programs aspire to achieve internally: diverse voices, respectful dialogue, and shared accountability.

Why GWIC Matters

The question is not simply why the podcast has endured. The question is: why has it become essential listening for compliance professionals worldwide? There are several reasons.

1. It Elevates Role Models

You cannot be what you cannot see. Great Women in Compliance has consistently highlighted leaders at every stage of their careers, from emerging professionals to chief compliance officers. It has provided visibility to talent that might otherwise remain unseen outside corporate walls. That visibility matters for the next generation. Young professionals entering compliance hear real stories of career pivots, setbacks, ethical dilemmas, and leadership breakthroughs. They hear authenticity instead of perfection. That is empowering.

2. It Bridges Technical and Personal Development

Many compliance resources focus exclusively on regulations and enforcement trends. Those are important, but they are not sufficient. GWIC addresses the human dimension of compliance leadership. It tackles topics such as navigating difficult reporting lines, advocating for resources, handling burnout, negotiating compensation, and managing crises. In other words, it addresses the real-world challenges compliance professionals face daily. The result is a podcast that supports both competence and confidence.

3. It Strengthens Community

One of the most underappreciated aspects of compliance is its isolation. Many compliance officers operate in small teams or even as a “team of one.” They often carry heavy responsibility with limited internal allies. GWIC builds connections. Listeners hear their own experiences reflected to them. They gain practical advice. They gain reassurance that their challenges are shared. They gain community. In a profession defined by independence and integrity, community is a powerful counterbalance.

4. It Normalizes Ambition

There was a time when ambition in compliance, particularly among women, was often underplayed. GWIC normalizes aspiration. Guests openly discuss career advancement, executive presence, board interaction, and strategic leadership. They speak candidly about how to position compliance as a value driver rather than a cost center. That message aligns directly with where the profession is headed. Compliance is no longer confined to checking boxes. It is integrated into corporate strategy, enterprise risk management, and ESG initiatives. The podcast reflects that evolution.

A Platform Within the Compliance Podcast Network

GWIC is a proud part of the Compliance Podcast Network, and its success reflects the broader strength of that platform. The Compliance Podcast Network was built on the idea that compliance conversations should be accessible, practical, and forward-looking. GWIC exemplifies that mission. Within the network, the show occupies a unique space. It is simultaneously technical and personal, strategic and relatable. It broadens the conversation while deepening it. Three hundred episodes within a professional niche is not simply a number. It is evidence of sustained engagement, loyalty, and impact.

The Broader Impact on the Profession

Over 300 episodes, GWIC has done more than spotlight individual careers. It has shaped the culture of the compliance profession itself.

It has reinforced that:

  • Ethical leadership is not optional.
  • Diversity of perspective strengthens governance.
  • Mentorship is a professional obligation.
  • Authenticity enhances credibility.
  • Collaboration drives resilience.

These themes echo across boardrooms, regulatory agencies, and multinational corporations. The podcast has helped elevate compliance from a technical specialty to a leadership discipline.

The Power of Continuity

Longevity in podcasting requires consistency. It requires preparation, thoughtful interviewing, and disciplined production. It requires hosts who are willing to invest time week after week. Three hundred episodes represent years of commitment. The founders, Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley, established the tone and purpose. The current hosts, Lisa Fine, Hemma Lomax, Sarah Hadden, and Ellen Hunt, have carried that purpose forward with energy and professionalism. That continuity is itself a lesson for compliance programs. Strong initiatives endure when they are rooted in shared values and supported by collaborative leadership.

Looking Ahead

If the first 300 episodes were about visibility, empowerment, and connection, the next 300 will likely focus on influence. The compliance profession is evolving rapidly. Artificial intelligence, geopolitical instability, sanctions regimes, ESG reporting, and data privacy are reshaping risk landscapes. Compliance leaders must adapt while preserving integrity. GWIC is well-positioned to guide that conversation. The show will continue to highlight leaders who are not only responding to regulatory change but shaping organizational culture.

A Moment Worth Celebrating

Three hundred episodes is a milestone that deserves recognition.

It represents courage in launching something new.

It represents dedication to sustaining it.

It represents leadership in expanding it.

Most importantly, it represents community. GWIC has become essential listening because it speaks to the whole compliance professional, not just the regulator-facing expert, but the mentor, the strategist, the advocate, and the leader.

Congratulations to Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley for their vision. Congratulations to Lisa Fine, Hemma Lomax, Sarah Hadden, and Ellen Hunt for their stewardship. And congratulations to the broader compliance community for embracing a platform that has strengthened us all. Three hundred episodes in, the impact is clear. Great Women in Compliance is not simply a podcast. It is a movement.

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Great Women in Compliance: The Art and Science of Compliance: Nicole Rose on Culture, Curiosity, and Change

In this episode of Great Women in Compliance, host Sarah Hadden sits down with Nicole Rose—lawyer, artist, author, and creator of the FRAME Training Method—to explore how human behavior, psychology, and creativity can transform compliance from a checkbox exercise into a movement that drives real change. Nicole shares the story behind her “Moneyball Compliance” approach, showing how small, measurable behaviors can predict integrity, build stronger cultures, and make ethics training finally stick. The two also discuss Nicole’s upcoming book, Told: How In-House Legal and Compliance Professionals Secure Airtime, Gain Traction, and Transform Organizations.

Four Takeaways:

1. Compliance Is About People, Not Policies

Nicole’s journey from lawyer to artist to compliance innovator reveals that effective compliance starts with understanding human behavior and culture—not just ticking boxes or enforcing rules.

2. Behavior Beats Metrics

Traditional compliance programs measure completion rates; Nicole’s “Moneyball Compliance” approach measures behaviors that predict integrity—like speaking up, giving feedback, and practicing micro-activities that build ethical “muscle memory.”

3. Curiosity Is the Secret Ingredient

Engagement happens when employees are curious. Nicole emphasizes creating “pre-frames” that connect compliance messages to what people already know and care about, making training meaningful and memorable.

4. Make It Real, Not Funny

Humor has its place in presentations, but when it comes to serious topics like bribery, privacy, or human rights, authenticity and relatability are far more powerful than laughs. Real characters and relatable stories drive real change.

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Lisa and Mary Changed the World: The Great Women in Compliance Community

In the world of compliance, where incremental victories often measure progress against pervasive risks, it’s rare to witness a revolution. Yet Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley have achieved just that. Through their groundbreaking podcast, Great Women in Compliance (GWIC), they did not just host conversations; they redefined what it means to foster a community. Alongside their book Sending the Elevator Back Down, they have created a legacy of empowerment, collaboration, and celebration in a field that thrives on shared knowledge and collective strength.

Lisa and Mary were recently honored for their work in creating GWIC, the GWIC community, and leading the development of an entire movement of women supporting other women in the worldwide compliance community. The Compliance Podcast Network named Lisa and Mary the co-winners of its first annual Agora Award for Excellence in Podcasting.

The Birth of Great Women in Compliance

The idea for Great Women in Compliance was sparked at an SCCE Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics (SCCE) event in 2018. As the story goes, Lisa and Mary approached compliance podcasting veteran Tom Fox with a simple yet bold observation: the Compliance Podcast Network needed more diverse voices. Tom, true to form, responded with a challenge: “When will you start a podcast?”

The rest is history. With no prior experience in podcasting, Lisa and Mary leaped, driven by a shared vision of showcasing women’s stories, insights, and challenges in the compliance profession. With support from mentors like Matt Kelly and colleagues across the compliance community, the duo recorded their first episodes. What began as a grassroots effort quickly became a cornerstone of the compliance industry.

Building a Legacy: The Podcast, the Community, and the Book 

  • The GWIC Podcast: Amplifying Women’s Voices

From its inception, the GWIC podcast stood out for its authenticity and relatability. Lisa and Mary adopted an informal yet insightful interviewing style, allowing their guests to shine. The podcast featured diverse voices, from seasoned compliance leaders to rising stars, and explored various topics, including leadership, career development, and the unique challenges women face in compliance. Their approach was not simply about storytelling but about creating a platform for empowerment. The podcast became a hub for listeners to gain practical advice, discover new perspectives, and connect with a broader network of professionals.

  • The Community: A Network of Support

The GWIC podcast inspired not only listeners but also catalyzed a movement. Recognizing the need for a dedicated space for women in compliance, Lisa and Mary launched the Great Women in Compliance LinkedIn group. This online community became a vibrant forum for networking, mentorship, and resource sharing. Through this community, women found mentors, job opportunities, and a sense of belonging in an isolating field. It also spurred the creation of dedicated women in compliance sessions at significant conferences, highlighting the widespread impact of Lisa and Mary’s vision.

  • GWIC: The Book – Sending the Elevator Back Down

In October 2020, Lisa and Mary released Sending the Elevator Back Down, a book that encapsulated their philosophy and amplified women’s voices across the compliance field. The book featured stories of triumph, resilience, and lessons learned from compliance professionals worldwide. The book was published by Corporate Compliance Insights and headed by Sarah Hadden, an early supporter of GWIC who continues her support of and participation in GWIC to this day. The title reflects their core belief: success is most meaningful when shared. By “sending the elevator back down,” Lisa and Mary encouraged readers to uplift others as they rise, fostering a culture of collaboration and mutual support.

Overcoming Challenges: Lessons from the GWIC Journey 

Lisa and Mary’s journey has not been without its challenges. As they readily admit, neither had technical experience when they began podcasting. They leaned on mentors and allies to navigate the technical aspects, demonstrating the power of community in achieving ambitious goals. Additionally, their differing styles, Mary’s free-form conversational approach, and Lisa’s structured format might have posed a challenge in less harmonious partnerships. Instead, they embraced their differences, allowing their unique strengths to complement each other.

Their journey also highlights the importance of perseverance and adaptability. From launching the podcast to publishing the book during a global pandemic, Lisa and Mary consistently turned obstacles into opportunities.

The Impact: Changing the Compliance World

It is impossible to overstate the influence of Great Women in Compliance. Through representation and recognition, they have spotlighted the achievements of women in compliance. Lisa and Mary helped reshape perceptions of what leadership in this field looks like. GWIC has been a clearinghouse for professional development within the compliance community, as listeners and community members have reported finding mentors, gaining new insights, and even landing jobs thanks to connections made through GWIC.

Finally, GWIC, both the podcast and the community, has fostered a culture of inclusivity and support in compliance.

The Next Chapter

With 250 podcast episodes and a growing community, Great Women in Compliance shows no signs of slowing down. Mary has retired her co-host microphone and is now the ‘OG’ of GWIC. The GWIC podcast has expanded to include co-hosts Hemma Lomax, Ellen Hunt, and Sarah Hadden, ensuring the platform remains dynamic and inclusive. Lisa and Mary are also exploring the possibility of a second book, aiming to continue telling the stories that inspire and empower their community.

A Call to Action: Be the Change

For those who think you cannot change the world, I point you to Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. They have proven that two women with a vision can. They built a legacy that empowers not just women in compliance but the entire industry worldwide. Their work serves as a reminder that creating meaningful change does not require a perfect plan, just passion, perseverance, and the courage to start.

Celebrating their achievements, we should all take their message to heart: success is amplified when shared. Whether through mentorship, advocacy, or simply lending a listening ear, we all have the power to lift others as we rise. Lisa and Mary have sent the elevator back down. Now, it’s up to the rest of us to ensure it keeps moving.

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Sarah Hadden on Cross-Pollinated Project Groups


Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. In episode 51, Mary Shirley, speaks with Sarah Hadden, the Editor of Corporate Compliance Insights (CCI). They visit about an innovation for compliance professionals, cross-pollinated project groups.
One of the best parts of the GWIC podcast for Mary and Lisa is when it has resulted into new ideas for other initiatives. During Sarah Hadden’s interview (check out Episode 36 if you missed it!), we touched on the Fresenius Medical Care North America’s Compliance Department sub-group, the Marketing Team. The idea stemmed from previous Chief Compliance Officer, Lisa Estrada and was brought to life by the cross-pollinated team of staff who would become responsible for department branding, delivering Compliance Week events to 66,000 staff and re-vamp of Compliance Action Line materials.
In this conversation, we draw on Sarah’s significant subject matter expertise as a marketing and communications professional to highlight some of the key marketing techniques that Compliance Departments ought to consider when implementing similar teams within their own departments and Mary shares the success stories and hard lessons learned from two years leading the FMCNA Compliance marketing team. We walk through some of the key factors to think about when implementing your own cross-pollinated focus teams within your Compliance Department and touch on some of the subjects beyond marketing that you might benefit from creating specialist taskforces to work on.
We dare you not to be inspired to create your own cross-pollinated project teams!
Building anything should have architects, contractors, and inspectors, and we hope you enjoy thinking about your work and the role you and your colleagues play on your dream team.
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