On the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 terrorist attack, Tom Fox and guests look back on the tragic event and what it meant for them personally, as well as how it impacted the world of compliance. Tom’s first guest this week is Gabe Hidalgo, anti money laundering compliance expert, who shares how the events of that fateful day changed the course of his career.
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Looking Back
Gabe – who worked as outside counsel for insurance companies at the time – remembers turning on YahooTV as soon as he got to his office on 9/11 and seeing the second plane hit the World Trade Towers. He knew immediately that it was a deliberate attack. “I knew that this was kind of a hallmark moment,” he tells Tom, “that this was not an accident.” He details leaving the office in haste to get to his pregnant wife, and the obstacles and roadblocks he faced on the way. When they finally reunited at home, they were overcome with emotion. He remembers feeling gutted thinking about the unborn children who would grow up never knowing their fathers.
Needing to Do Something
Gabe needed to do something more than just shed tears about 9/11, he tells Tom. He started to think about how he could use his skills as an attorney. “I went down the path of looking in private industry, what I can do, and came across anti money laundering compliance, which I thought was fascinating. And I said to myself, I need a way for me to be able to get into that so that I can start making a difference.” He shares his journey into the field, and that it was exactly the right time and the right fit for him. 9/11 was a wake up call for America, he remarks. It made us realize that we need to do whatever we can to prevent anything similar from happening again.
Evolution of AML Since 9/11
Tom asks Gabe how AML compliance has advanced since 9/11. It’s much more difficult for terrorist financiers to move funds now, he responds. “A lot of institutions have strengthened and hardened their compliance programs to the point where they can monitor individual transactions as they’re moving across the transactional workflow in the United States. They examine each and every transaction that’s coming across from a correspondent banking perspective, which is probably one of the most high-risk channels for money movement.” Gabe and his colleagues have done great work over the past 20 years, which has helped law enforcement stop and apprehend would-be terrorists. However, we can’t be complacent, Gabe says.
Tom asks what 9/11 means for America. The 20th anniversary is a somber one, Gabe replies. 9/11 taught us not to be naive, that we’re not as protected as we think we are. He is proud of the advancements made to keep everyone safe, but the work continues. “It’s a moment of reflection,” he points out. “We need to think about not only the people who have lost their lives, but everyone that was impacted – whether they were directly impacted through a family loss, or they were emotionally impacted by what actually occurred.”
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This coming Saturday is the 20th anniversary of the attacks upon America on September 11, 2001. Like most Americans, this was the seminal event in the history of our country. I have been thinking a lot about that date and the anniversary; even more so with the fall of Afghanistan and the evacuation from Kabul. I wanted to do something to commemorate this anniversary, so I decided to do a podcast series featuring the personal stories of persons in the compliance field with their thoughts about what the date of 9/11 means to them, how it changed our profession and their thoughts looking back some 20 years later. The lineup for this week is:
- 6 – Gabe Hidalgo
- 7 – Juan Zarate
- 8 – Alex Dill
- 9 – Eric Feldman
- 10 – Scott Moritz
- 11 – John Lee Dumas
My guest today is Gabe Hidalgo, anti-money laundering (AML) compliance expert, who shared how the events of that fateful day changed the course of his career. Hidalgo was working as counsel for insurance companies at the time. He recalled turning on YahooTV as soon as he got to his office on 9/11 and seeing the second plane hit the World Trade Towers. He knew immediately that it was a deliberate attack. “I knew that this was kind of a hallmark moment,” and “that this was not an accident.”
He talked about his frantic attempt to reach his wife, who worked in midtown Manhattan at the time. He told about attempts to drive into Manhattan to pick her up and bring her back to their home in Queens. On that day he saw military roadblocks for the first time on the highways going into Manhattan. His wife was finally able to get a bus off the island and they met up at her bus station. When they finally reunited at home, they were overcome with emotion. He said they cried most of that day and they could hear others crying in the adjacent apartments as well.
One of the most poignant moments was when they heard about the wives who lost their husbands and the children who lost their fathers in the NYC attacks. He and his wife were pregnant with their first child and Hidalgo recalled feeling gutted thinking about the unborn children who would grow up never knowing their fathers.
Having understood that America had been attacked, Hidalgo was determined to join the fight against terrorism. As he related, he needed to “do something more than just shed tears”. He immediately ruled out local law enforcement or the FBI as his wife was adamant that she did not want him carrying a gun or going into harms way. So, Hidalgo started to think about how he could use his skills as an attorney. “I went down the path of looking in private industry, what I can do, and came across anti-money laundering compliance, which I thought was fascinating. And I said to myself, I need a way for me to be able to get into that so that I can start making a difference.”
Hidalgo found a local money service business in Queens that had a global footprint and was looking for a director of legal compliance. He applied and in the interview process told the hiring manager “I don’t have any AML experience, I just need about 30 days to get up to speed.” However, he could immediately handle legal works so “within those 30 days I read everything I could. I looked at every single document that I could in regard to AML. To be honest with you, AML felt like the perfect fit for me, given what I wanted to do was to help as much as I could to help to prevent anything like this happening again in our country.”
The company was about to be examined by the State of New York which focused his learning skills in AML. Hidalgo had to “look at their policy and procedures that they had in place, rewrite a lot of those policies, procedures, and basically put into practice everything I read about AML.” As he wryly noted, “luckily for me, the examination went great.”
We explored how AML compliance has advanced since 9/11. Hidalgo said, “I think if you were to examine the sea change of sweeping changes that have occurred in the last 20 years between what compliance programs looked like back then versus what they are now. It’s a magnitude of hundreds and hundreds of times more difficult for those funds to be moved the way they were moved for the 9/11 plot. These changes have made it much more difficult for terrorist financiers to move funds now.”
Hidalgo, who subsequently worked as a regulator Federal Reserve Bank of New York, added while no program is perfect “I’ve seen these programs in place, even when there were opportunities to enhance what they were doing. A lot of institutions have strengthened and hardened their compliance programs to the point where they can monitor individual transactions as they’re moving across the transactional workflow in the United States. They examine each and every transaction that’s coming across from a correspondent banking perspective, which is probably one of the most high-risk channels for money movement.” He concluded by stating that he believes his colleagues in AML compliance “have done great work over the past 20 years, which has helped law enforcement stop and apprehend would-be terrorists. However, we can’t be complacent”.
I concluded by asking Hidalgo for his reflections looking back at 9/11; some 20 years later. Hidalgo began by noting that “the 20th anniversary is a dark moment”. 9/11 taught us not to be naive, that we’re not as protected as we think we are. He said, “We need to think about not only the people who have lost their lives, but everyone that was impacted – whether they were directly impacted through a family loss, or they were emotionally impacted by what actually occurred.” He is proud of the advancements in AML compliance made to keep everyone safe but concluded, “the work continues.”
Please check out each of the podcasts this week. They will post at 6 AM CT on the Compliance Podcast Network and JDSupra and midnight on Innovation in Compliance, YouTube, iTunes and Spotify.
The Compliance Life details the journey to and in the role of a Chief Compliance Officer. How does one come to sit in the CCO chair? What are some of the skills a CCO needs to success navigate the compliance waters in any company? What are some of the top challenges CCOs have faced and how did they meet them? These questions and many others will be explored in this new podcast series. Over four episodes each month on The Compliance Life, I visit with one current or former CCO to explore their journey to the CCO chair. This month, my guest is Gabe Hidalgo, Managing Director at K2 Integrity and former CCO.
In is role at K2 Integrity, Hidalgo sees problems and issues for clients through a variety of lenses. His time as a CCO gives him insight and empathy into the challenges of a CCO. His time at the Federal Reserve Bank of New York gives him insight into the regulatory mindset for financial institutions. He continues to emphasize that the buck stops with the CCO. AML compliance will only grow and continue to become more important, not simply for financial institutions but for commercial corporations going forward.
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Gabe Hidalgo LinkedIn Profile
Gabe Hidalgo K2 Integrity Profile
K2 Integrity
The Compliance Life details the journey to and in the role of a Chief Compliance Officer. How does one come to sit in the CCO chair? What are some of the skills a CCO needs to success navigate the compliance waters in any company? What are some of the top challenges CCOs have faced and how did they meet them? These questions and many others will be explored in this new podcast series. Over four episodes each month on The Compliance Life, I visit with one current or former CCO to explore their journey to the CCO chair. This month, my guest is Gabe Hidalgo, Managing Director at K2 Integrity and former CCO.
Hidalgo moved into CCO chairs at Community Federal Savings Bank and at Noble Bank International. His role in both of these financial institutions was primarily AML compliance but it included broader compliance roles as well. The biggest lesson was that the ‘buck stops with the CCO’. Ultimately it is your responsibility and you must have accountability of all areas of compliance. As a CCO a key trait is empathy which you must employ in your dealings with other executives and employees. He believes you must connect with your employees.
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Gabe Hidalgo LinkedIn Profile
Gabe Hidalgo K2 Integrity Profile
K2 Integrity
The Compliance Life details the journey to and in the role of a Chief Compliance Officer. How does one come to sit in the CCO chair? What are some of the skills a CCO needs to success navigate the compliance waters in any company? What are some of the top challenges CCOs have faced and how did they meet them? These questions and many others will be explored in this new podcast series. Over four episodes each month on The Compliance Life, I visit with one current or former CCO to explore their journey to the CCO chair. This month, my guest is Gabe Hidalgo, Managing Director at K2 Integrity and former CCO.
As a native New Yorker, Hidalgo was deep impacted by 9/11. He wanted to join the fight against terrorism and did so by leaving insurance defense work and moving into AML compliance. From this start, Hidalgo worked at a wide range of financial institutions, consulting firms and eventually the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, all in the AML field.
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Gabe Hidalgo LinkedIn Profile
Gabe Hidalgo K2 Integrity Profile
K2 Integrity
The Compliance Life details the journey to and in the role of a Chief Compliance Officer. How does one come to sit in the CCO chair? What are some of the skills a CCO needs to success navigate the compliance waters in any company? What are some of the top challenges CCOs have faced and how did they meet them? These questions and many others will be explored in this new podcast series. Over four episodes each month on The Compliance Life, I visit with one current or former CCO to explore their journey to the CCO chair. This month, my guest is Gabe Hidalgo, Managing Director at K2 Integrity and former CCO. Hidalgo is a native New Yorker and first generation American which form a big part of how and why he eventually found his way into compliance. After law school he worked for in-house for an insurance company and later as an insurance defense lawyer. Both experiences gave him insights into the importance of language in interpreting insurance policy coverage issues and how to marshal arguments to persuade juries at trial.
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Gabe Hidalgo LinkedIn Profile
Gabe Hidalgo K2 Integrity Profile
K2 Integrity
In this special episode of K2’s Integrity Matters podcast series, I visit with Gabe Hidalgo. Hidalgo is a Managing Director at K2 Integrity. He has 20 years of legal, regulatory compliance, and Anti-Money Laundering (AML) experience working with wholesale and retail banks, FinTech companies, broker/dealers, and money services business entities. Hidalgo is a recognized subject-matter expert in the cryptocurrency and digital assets market and is able to help clients navigate and mitigate Bank Secrecy Act and Anti-Money Laundering (BSA/AML) compliance risks. In this podcast, we take a deep dive into the current issues around cryptocurrency regulation and where they may be headed down the road. Some of the highlights include:
The Current Landscape
- Consumer and institutional push into crypto.
- NFTs are growing in popularity. What is the significance?
- Heavy institutional hitters buying in of late. Is the little guy now cut out?
Current Regulatory Climate
- Alternative currency has gone from to an asset class being bought and sold for investing.
- What are the views of Gary Gensler and where might the SEC go in terms of regulation and enforcement?
- IRS and taxation issues.
- What are the benefits of a strong regulatory environment for both the financial system as well as the companies in it?
Into the Future
- Inevitability that there will be more regulatory guidance and rules; you have more and more mainstream institutions ready to buy or invest.
- Whenever you have that much interest, the government has to get involved from a risk mitigation standpoint, and consumer protection standpoint.
- Who is going to oversee it? Why types of products? Who falls in those product classes?
For more on K2 Integrity, check out their website, here.