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Great Women in Compliance

Nicole Diaz-Kindness and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

In 2021, Snap Inc. released a new code of conduct with a theme of kindness evangelism. Hear Nicole Diaz, Global Head of Integrity & Compliance Legal talk about how the team worked on putting it together and why they considered it important to have a focus on kindness in a company code of conduct.

Nicole also shares some of the compliance considerations when working in a social media/tech company, as well as what’s on the agenda for the Snap Compliance program in 2022. We hear about her commitment to DEI also and how this has impacted Nicole’s approach to ethics and compliance.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

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Great Women in Compliance

The Lightning Round: Surprise Listener Questions for Mary and Lisa


Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley. Lisa and Mary welcome listeners back to a new season with hot seat questions put forward by their audience without time to prepare. They also give a spoiler alert for their next joint episode as something to look forward to and think about your submissions for the future. Here are the questions Lisa and Mary tackled in this episode:

  • How do you continue to learn in order to stay on top of things in your role?
  • “If your ideal compliance leader was an animal, which animal, and why?”
  • When did you realize that GWIC has grown from the podcast to a larger community? Was there a moment for you?
  • If you had an extra $10k and had to spend it within the month- what would you do (personal or professional)?
  • As someone who is a global traveler, when you get to go home to New Zealand, once you recover from the flight, what is the first “local”/hometown thing you want?
  • Is it ever okay for an E&C investigator to employ deception when interviewing a subject? I’ve worked at companies that allow very limited exceptions and others that say “never.” A common exception involves a subject who might figure out who the reporter is (and then retaliate against her/him). As we seek to do everything and anything possible to prevent retaliation against reporters, the investigator might say to the subject during an interview (in a situation where the internal reporter is known to the investigator), “Please make no effort to guess or otherwise identify the reporter. Doing so risks violating our anti-retaliation policy. The reporter may be anonymous or from outside the company–it doesn’t matter. The bottom line is, you must refrain from trying to determine or conclude who it is.” Of course, nothing in this example is a lie, but it is deceptive given the investigator knows the reporter isn’t external or anonymous. Certain countries may have laws or regulations that answer this question but, importantly, the standards of an E&C investigation–at least in the United States–are not the same as a government-led investigation. Also, many E&C investigators are not licensed attorneys, so there are no “licensed professional” restrictions to consider. So, , do you think it’s okay for an E&C investigator, in rare and previously identified instances, to deceive an interviewee when doing so likely could have a material effect on protecting a reporter from retaliation?
  • What’s the biggest area (related to your current role) you are curious about and why?
  • What are some of the things you are researching right now? (Could be personal- could be professional, could be vague)
  • If there was one thing you could change about the way Compliance is perceived by people outside the profession, what would it be?
  • We often hear of the importance of the birds and the bees. But in the compliance world, if you could only pick the attributes of one, which would it be and why?

We hope that you enjoyed this episode and welcome any feedback you may wish to send in to gwicpod@gmail.com.
For those of you in the northern hemisphere, it is the season for beach reads and you may be traveling after a long break.  For your time off, you can pick up a copy (or download)  “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?
As always, we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.
You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
 
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Cordery

Cordery Head to Head @ Home: Mary Shirley on the Need to Understand Culture in Compliance


In this edition of Cordery Head to Head @ Home Cordery’s Jonathan Armstrong talks to Mary Shirley.  Mary is currently Head of Culture of Integrity and Compliance Education at Fresenius Medical Care.
Mary joins us from Boston.  Mary was born in New Zealand and has worked extensively in Asia and now in the US.
They talk about how Mary became involved in compliance issues after having various government roles in New Zealand.  They talk about the importance of understanding culture as part of a company’s compliance program.  They talk about the challenges of geography for multinational corporations and how the compliance team should adapt.  They also talk about whistleblowing and retaliation.  They also talk about the future of compliance.
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You can find out more about Mary here: https://www.corporatecomplianceinsights.com/author/mary-shirley/.
You can find out more about Jonathan here https://www.corderycompliance.com/our-people/jonathan-armstrong/
You can find out more about Cordery and its work here https://www.corderycompliance.com/.
You can also read about current issues in dealing with the pandemic here https://www.corderycompliance.com/category/covid19/
You can view more Cordery Head to Head interviews here www.bit.ly/corderytv.

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Great Women in Compliance

A Mary Soliloquy


Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.
We love getting inspiration from great places and what a better a place to gain inspiration for an episode than one of our sister podcasts on the Compliance Podcast Network?!  In this week’s episode, Mary channels the Everything Compliance team and walks through her list of rants and raves for the moment.
We boo misogyny in the workplace (and well, everywhere if we’re frank), erosion of Chief Compliance Officer authority and treating job seekers with disrespect.
We celebrate male allies of feminism in Compliance, those volunteering for Compliance Career Connection and all of our listeners who keep an open mind as to different perspectives while investing in growth and professional development.
We like to share advice and tips on the podcast via our learned guests but some things don’t have immediate answers, including some aspects of what we’ve canvassed today.  If you’d like to share your thoughts on the issues raised, we invite you to connect with us at GWICpod@gmail.com.
The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is proudly featured on the Compliance Podcast Network and sponsored by Corporate Compliance Insights.  If you enjoyed this episode please subscribe to the podcast and rate it on your podcast player to help other compliance professionals find it.  Want to hear more from us?  We have a book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020) which is available on Amazon.com and Book Depository.
If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?
As always we are so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.
You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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Great Women in Compliance

Ask Us Anything

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

The Great Women in Compliance podcast is back!  In this joint episode, Lisa and Mary kick off 2021 with an “ask us anything” episode where the questions were solicited from the GWIC Community.

Mary and Lisa discuss substantive issues including their opinions what may happen in 2021, including whether compliance enforcement will change in the US given the change in administration; how organizations may change their management and leadership in the E&C function, and the “new new normal” from COVID.

They also talk about their own goals for 2021 for professional development and growth, both in their full-time jobs and in learning and thought leadership.  As usual, they also laugh and discuss the lighter side of what the amazing compliance community does every day.

Lisa and Mary also note that they always appreciate feedback on the podcast, potential guests, and topics to discuss, and solicit any thoughts from listeners.

Have you heard that the Great Women in Compliance Book, Sending the Elevator down is now available in an electronic version?  Head to Amazon to get your copy today!

If you’ve already read the booked and liked it, will you help out other women to make the decision to leverage off the tips and advice given by rating the book and giving it a glowing review on Amazon?

As always we’re so grateful for all of your support and if you have any feedback or suggestions for our 2021 line up, or would just like to reach out and say hello, we always welcome hearing from our listeners.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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The Ethics Movement

Mary Shirley – Bypassing burnout: Maximize your ethical impact, grow your career, and empower your team


CONVERGE is in its 5th year of bringing together the world’s leading companies for 2 days of dynamic speakers, thought-provoking breakout sessions, and opportunities to connect with like-minded professionals. This year the conference has gone virtual. You will leave the conference with new resources and best practices allowing you to continue the hard work of driving ethics to the center of your business. In today’s episode I visit with Mary Shirley. We visit about her panel at Converge20 on Bypassing burnout: Maximize your ethical impact, grow your career, and empower your team. 
Mary is Senior Director, Ethics and Compliance , Fresenius Medical Care North America. In this session, you will learn how to be a more powerful force for good within your organizations from a group of growth-oriented compliance pros. For more registration and information on Converge20, click here.

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Compliance and Coronavirus

Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine on their professional and personal challenges during the Coronavirus Crisis


Welcome to the newest addition to the Compliance Podcast Network, Compliance and Coronavirus. As the Voice of Compliance, I wanted to start a podcast which will help to bring both clarity and sanity to the compliance practitioner and compliance profession during this worldwide health and healthcare crisis. In this episode, I am joined by the co-hosts of the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine who discuss their personal and professional challenges during this time of coronavirus. The podcast is cross-posted from the Great Women in Compliance podcast, on the Compliance Podcast Network.
This podcast is sponsored by SAI Global. To learn how you can protect your business operations and workforce during these uncertain times, visit saiglobal.com/risk for free resources, expert guidance, and industry-leading technology.