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Tracy Saale-From Law Enforcement to In-House

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. In today’s episode, Lisa speaks with Tracy Saale, who is Conduct Risk Management, Managing Director and Corporate Responsibility Officer at Charles Schwab.

This is her second career, and while we often hear from attorneys who have gone in-house, or were assigned to compliance, Tracy started out as a prosecutor and then at the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI), where she worked all over the globe, and advised in ethics and compliance during her career there. She discusses the importance of advising law enforcement officials on what is – or is not – permissible, particularly when they are dealing with criminal behavior and security issues. When she started at the FBI, they had approximately 14% women agents, and while that has increased into the 20% range, there is a way to go, so she recounts her experiences.

While Tracy was a bit guarded given her experiences with corporate malfeasance, she also was impressed with Charles Schwab, and joined them in part for that. In her in-house career, she is now seeing what so many of us see – that the majority of people are trying to do the right things – a more positive side of corporate life.

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