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Mary and Lisa in a Discussion in The Big News Edition

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. As Lisa and Mary return from seasonal break, they have some big news about the next chapter of the podcast.  Join this episode to hear about Mary’s planned departure from Great Women in Compliance at the 200th episode milestone and the exciting plans that Lisa has in mind to change things up and keep them fresh for #GWIC listeners when returning from an extended Summer break later in the year.  We look forward to celebrating the 200th episode with all of our listeners on 5 July 2023!

 Lisa and Mary also take the opportunity this episode to talk about some topical issues in Compliance, including Artificial Intelligence,  in relation to recent conferences and share information in relation to The Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics ECEI, Consero’s Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer Forum and the upcoming Compliance Week Women in Compliance Summit which will be held in Atlanta in June.  Check out the details and get yourself registered here to see Team GWIC speak on networking and other tips to advance your career.

 The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

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Krista Muszak – She’s Simply the Best

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. It’s fitting that for this International Women’s Day that we feature one of the brightest sparks in the Ethics and Compliance space, Krista Muszak.

It can be difficult to change industries in Compliance. Some organizations look for exact industry experience and pigeonhole individuals into one track of practice. Krista is someone who manages to transition between industries with ease and offers her tips for doing so.

 She shares a bit about what it’s like to focus on SOX Compliance, as she did in her previous role and now on Mergers and Acquisitions risk, which she is doing now. Congratulations to Krista on her new role!

Mary’s favorite part of this episode is when Krista talks about who she admires (spoiler alert, it’s one of the GWIC team), closely followed by a fabulous and innovative idea Krista shares to help sales folk look at Compliance from another angle that also serves the purpose of acting as a gap analysis for Compliance. You’ll want to listen to this episode to be inspired by and leverage from Krista’s creative brilliance.

 Lisa and Mary wish everyone an amazing International Women’s Day. We are pleased to recognize our peers for your fierce and formidable accomplishments. Keep shining!

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance (CCI Press, 2020).

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

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Julie Bregnard – Moving on Up

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. The Great Women in Compliance podcast’s guest for this week is Julie Bregnard, a Compliance professional who is relatively early into her career and going places fast.  Mary interviews Julie with a special focus on the job search, as Julie has just moved into a new role after five years at her first “real” job.  As discussed in the GWIC New Year episode several weeks ago to kick off 2023, the market for certain levels of Compliance staff is extremely favorable now.  Julie and Mary share some tips for further increasing job hunter success in the search.

 Julie also reflects on her time as a new graduate looking for her first job after university.  Mary asked Julie to give some tips on subject as she received a request to do an episode that is helpful to students.  Though further back in time, Mary still remembers how painful and demoralizing the search for your first professional full-time role can be and with this in mind, asked Julie to share some advice and encouragement for students on how to best stay motivated and on task throughout this time.

 As a Compliance practitioner who has been instrumental in strategizing on and delivering multiple Compliance Week events to her internal stakeholders, Julie provides some insights on what she thinks makes for a good Compliance Week and takes a broader view on how you can leverage them for ongoing dialogue in an organization.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance (CCI Press, 2020).

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

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Ellen Hunt with the 2023 Hunt Report

If CEOs have Larry Fink’s Annual Letter to CEOs, then Lisa has Ellen Hunt’s “Hunt Report.”  Ellen is Principal Consultant Advisor at Spark Compliance and is well known as a mentor and advocate to many in the E&C community.

Ellen has finished her first year as a “Sparkie,” and will update us on how that is going and what she is seeing and learning through her work.  For the past few years, Lisa and Ellen have talked about retaliation and what we can do better to protect people who raise concerns and those who are witnesses in investigations.  While we have seen some improvements, there is still a long way to go.  They also look at this in light of organizational justice and our workplaces.

They also continue the discussions of the past few weeks about kindness, fairness and equality, and how these impact our programs.  This can impact how we collaborate with DEI and ESG teams, to ensure ethical workplaces.

One other way you can improve your workplace is with employee recognition, and Mary’s “Living Your Best Compliance Life” column at Corporate Compliance Insights can provide some great insights on the benefits of doing so and some ideas that can brighten someone’s day.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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Damar Hamlin – Lessons in Leadership and Crisis Management

Welcome to the Sports and Compliance podcast. For the longest time, I have wanted to have a podcast on the intersection of Sports and the World of Compliance and Ethics, both for those stories as they play out on the Sports Page and for the lessons they provide to business executives and compliance professionals. In this podcast series, I am joined by one of the top compliance commentators, Stephen Martin, CCO at Skillsoft. Together, we will use our love of sports and competition to discuss current ethical issues in sports, look at compliance through a sports lens, and determine how the world of sports and its stories can guide the compliance professional.

In this episode, we are joined by Lisa Fine, co-host of the Great Women in Compliance podcast, Buffalo, NY native, and uber Buffalo Bills fan. We deep dive into the Damar Hamlin injury from the compliance and leadership perspectives. Our topics include:

  • Lisa’s reflections on the annus horribillus Buffalo had in 2022 and how the Bills are, in many ways they are the city’s glue.
  • How did we all feel watching it in live time?
  • What were the NFL’s policy and procedural failures in crisis response and management?
  • The leadership demonstrated by the coaches and players in the face of being told to return to play.
  • Why verifying information before reporting it is so critical?
  • The role of ESPN.
  • The role of the stadium EMS personnel.
  • This story has united the entire country in a way not seen for some time.
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Joelle Thorne-Peters – Be Audit You Can Be

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

This week we are pleased to feature Joelle Thorne-Peters who is a Compliance Audit expert.  She shares with us her thoughts on what Compliance audit is about, what to look for when hiring audit professionals and commentary on the enjoyable phrase “You don’t have to be a clown to audit the circus”.

She also shares some perennial issues that are always worth keeping in mind as stones to turn over, an emerging risk for our radars, espouses a view on where Compliance audit should sit in the organization and thoughts on how Compliance can better work with internal audit.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

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GWIC x The Ethics Experts-Mary’s Episode

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

For the next two weeks, the GWIC team are presenting a collab with ComplianceLine: GWIC X The Ethics Experts! Mary and Lisa start their throwback Wednesday sessions by harking all the way back to the early days of COVID19, where Mary’s episode was recorded while she was in the New Zealand coronavirus lockdown.

Gio Gallo interviewed Mary about her leadership style – especially focused on giving (junior) staff substantive, meaningful work and wings to fly while setting out a safety net, how not to slip into complacency in your Compliance program by being reassured of historical achievements, and understanding that there is no lowest common denominator. Learn how you can use surveys to tap into your most vulnerable areas you don’t even know you have.

 Check out Lisa’s interview on the Ethics Experts here on the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on 19 October!

 On 26 October, Mary and Lisa will return to their regular programming with a joint episode on learnings, insights, and observations from the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics Compliance and Ethics Institute. Want to be a part of the fun? Introduce yourself to Lisa and Mary at the conference – you’ll be able to spot them by their GWIC tote bags that Lisa kindly procured for the duo.

The Great Women in Compliance podcast is excited to look at topics like this one, and we are always open to suggestions for guests.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.

You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

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Margarita Derelanko – She’s Going Places

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

In late 2018, Mary and Lisa began advertising the launch of the Great Women in Compliance podcast, which would air on 6 December 2018.  Margarita Derelanko was one of the people who saw the marketing collateral and grew excited about the incoming podcast.  She affords Lisa and Mary the opportunity to hear what the launch of the podcast was like from the other side of the fence – the to-date missing aspect of their origin story – what the listenership was thinking and how the podcast was received.  Margarita shares how the podcast has impacted her life, including her takeaways from having her first article published, and the benefits she has gained from the encouragement of the hosts and guests.

Unlike many of the GWIC and certainly unlike Mary and Lisa, Margarita had the opportunity to choose whether or not to be in Compliance and she shares what it’s like for the new generation to consider joining the field – spoiler alert, Compliance Destiny appears yet again!  It’s a real thing folks!

Margarita shares some advice for helping to overcome biases when you don’t look like you fit the part.  She is of very small stature and is lucky enough to have youthful looks – causing some to make unfair judgments.  Listen in for how she overcomes the biases and consider how you can turn some of your perceived greatest weaknesses into a strength.

Following on from Mia Reini’s tips for putting together an engaging line up for the The Home Depot’s Compliance Summit, Margarita lends some tips from her experience on the planning team for the Waud Capital Partner’s Compliance Symposium to have a successful event.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.

You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

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Donna Schneider on Crucial Conversations

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

Even if we weren’t in Compliance, the need to hold difficult conversations is part and parcel of participating in life in the human race.  And it’s also true that Compliance Officers sometimes need to deliver bad news or talk people out of ideas they are very attached to.  These responsibilities can lead to the need to invite important stakeholders to a crucial conversation with complex emotions involved.  Donna Schneider returns to the GWIC podcast to give us a lesson on Crucial Conversations after teaching courses on this topic in the past.  Since Donna last appeared on the show, she has been busy with her Compliance portfolio and shares an update on what she’s been up to with respect to risk assessments.

 Donna shares her best tips for successfully navigating difficult conversations and difficult people on the other end.  Mindset is key and Donna sets us up for success from this perspective.  She outlines some of the pitfalls that can be problematic for miscommunication and misunderstanding between people to help you avoid some of the common mistakes that are made, leading to fraught feelings.  If you’re interested in improving your communication with all stakeholders in your life and increasing successful outcomes in challenging conversations, this episode is just for you!

 The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.

You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

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Shannon Walker – A Holistic Approach to Raising Concerns

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

A critical topic for any ethics and compliance program is the ability for employees to raise concerns – from the initial speak-up process to the interview to the potential for retaliation: Shannon Walker, the founder, and CEO at WhistleBlower Security, Confidential Ethics Reporting & Case Management Solutions.

Shannon started in communications for large organizations in the US and Canada. She founded WhistleBlower Security with a vision to make the process easier and more comfortable for reporters while protecting organizations.  Lisa and Shannon have a wide-ranging conversation about the differences between telephone and online reporters, a provider’s responsibility to reporters and how that relates to their responsibilities to an organization and different ideas about how organizations can best “triage” in all parts of the investigation cycle.

Shannon has always been committed to diversity and ESG, and she also talks about how becoming a “B Corp” has been a great learning process and an excellent accomplishment.

Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary’s speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it’s going to be a great time.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to.  If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast’s story.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.