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Principled Podcast – S9 E17 – How Compliance Professionals Can “Send the Elevator Back Down”

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There are certain people you meet in your professional career that continue to have an impact on you and your industry, long after that initial meeting. For Principled Podcast host Meredith Hunt, that person is Mary Shirley, the former head of Integrity and Compliance Education at Fresenius Medical Care (now head of compliance for Masimo) and co-host of the Great Women in Compliance podcast. In this episode, the two discuss how ethics and compliance professionals can better amplify their peers and build community, using guidance from Mary’s book Sending the Elevator Back Down. They also explore themes from Mary’s upcoming book on how E&C leaders can make the most impact on their programs with limited resources.

Guest: Mary Shirley

Mary Shirley – Grayscale

Mary Shirley is a New Zealand-qualified lawyer with 18 years of ethics and compliance experience that includes working for data privacy and antitrust regulators, in-house and private practice/consultancy across five countries and four regions of the world.  

Mary co-hosts the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, which aims to create a platform for the outstanding achievements of women in the field and share ideas and provide learning opportunities for everyone in compliance. 

She co-authored the book Sending the Elevator Back Down: What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance (CCI Press, 2020) and has a second book highlighting trailblazing and innovative ideas to level up compliance programs, coming out later in 2023.  

She has been bestowed the honor of being named a Compliance Week Top Mind 2019, Trust Across America 2020 Top Thought Leader in Trust, and Excellence in Compliance Awards 2022 Mentor of the Year. 

Host: Meredith Hunt

Meredith Hunt – Grayscale

Meredith Hunt came to LRN in early 2023 as a formidable compliance generalist, with experience in quality management, project management, regulatory compliance, policy drafting, and compliance program implementation and management. As a self-proclaimed compliance “nerd,” Meredith works as an ethics and compliance specialist on LRN’s Advisory team. In this capacity, she leads LRN’s code of conduct assessment and benchmarking practice and advises clients on how to incorporate code of conduct best practices. Meredith also manages client projects across a range of industries, including code of conduct development and E&C program evaluations. 

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FCPA Compliance Report – GWIC Ladies Reflect

Welcome to the award-winning FCPA Compliance Report, the longest-running podcast in compliance. This episode features a special episode with guests Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley of the Great Women in Compliance podcast. Great Women in Compliance is coming up on its 200th-anniversary show and will move to GWIC 2.0. I asked the women if they would reflect on where they have been and where GWIC may be going.

In this podcast, Mary and Lisa reflect on their podcast journey, discussing their impact on their audience and themselves. They talk about their interview style, attempts to get Dolly Parton’s permission to use her song, and upcoming episodes, including adding a co-host. The podcast highlights the importance of diverse voices and perspectives and aims to make guests comfortable while maintaining a professional yet relaxed tone. Join these dynamic hosts as they share memories and tease new ideas, including a book release and round table discussions with women. Take advantage of this engaging and authentic conversation about success, imposter syndrome, and making a difference!

Key Highlights:

  • Great Women in Compliance: 200th Episode Reflections
  • Evolution of a Passion Podcast
  • Overcoming Impostor Syndrome on Podcasts
  • Opportunities and Authenticity in Podcasting
  • Approach to podcasting and favorite moments
  • Podcast Length and Dolly Parton’s Theme Song
  • Building Successful Business Relationships as Co-Hosts
  • Thanking Listeners for Ideas and Growth

Notable Quotes:

“As a true supporter of women, you looked at us and said, ‘Why don’t you do it?’ And suddenly, right away, it went from this thing we talked about into something bigger than both of us and turned into a book where the people interested in this shared their stories.”

“The podcast started as a hobby but has become an intricate part of our lives, not only as individuals but at least as in my life as cohosts and friends.”

“And what I think was an honor for Lisa and myself as people who aren’t necessarily on the speaking circuit, that we wanted to get the diversity of thought and new voices on the show.”

“Everybody is a thought leader. I’m talking to you because I think you’re a thought leader, and I think you’re bringing something to the table that, again, in a way, which not to make somebody feel pressured into doing it But I also think that’s how I connect with people. Whether they like it or not, this is the conversation. And this is who I am.”

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Great Women in Compliance-Reflections from Lisa and Mary

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine.  Today, however producer Tom Fox guest hosts Mary and Lisa.

The Great Women in Compliance podcast is not quite at 200 episodes. However Lisa, Mary and Tom wanted to do special joint episode, looking back on the last 4.5 years of #GWIC.

Tom leads this episode by putting questions to Lisa and Mary while sharing his own perceptions and observations about the journey so far.  The team discusses some behind-the scenes content about how the episodes were put together in light of the goals Lisa and Mary had for their audience.  They discuss the lighter moments and memorable times from various perspectives and what the community support has meant to them. This episode sets the stage for the 200th episode which we invite you to join us for on 5 July 2023.

Some of the highlights include:

·      How the kernel of GWIC began and how it still resonates today.

·      How Mary and Lisa helped several guests overcome the imposter syndrome by coming on the podcast as guests.

·      How the podcast led to the book.

·      How Mary and Lisa have built upon their GWIC experiences.

·      Lisa previews GWIC 2.0.

·      Some favorite memories.

·      Some funny memories.

You can find the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on the Compliance Podcast Network where you can find several other resources and podcasts to keep you up to date in the Ethics and Compliance world. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where you can learn more about the podcast, stream prior episodes and catch up on Mary’s monthly column “Living Your Best Compliance Life.”

Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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Mary and Lisa in a Discussion in The Big News Edition

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. As Lisa and Mary return from seasonal break, they have some big news about the next chapter of the podcast.  Join this episode to hear about Mary’s planned departure from Great Women in Compliance at the 200th episode milestone and the exciting plans that Lisa has in mind to change things up and keep them fresh for #GWIC listeners when returning from an extended Summer break later in the year.  We look forward to celebrating the 200th episode with all of our listeners on 5 July 2023!

 Lisa and Mary also take the opportunity this episode to talk about some topical issues in Compliance, including Artificial Intelligence,  in relation to recent conferences and share information in relation to The Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics ECEI, Consero’s Chief Ethics and Compliance Officer Forum and the upcoming Compliance Week Women in Compliance Summit which will be held in Atlanta in June.  Check out the details and get yourself registered here to see Team GWIC speak on networking and other tips to advance your career.

 The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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Julie Bregnard – Moving on Up

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, hosted by Mary Shirley and Lisa Fine. The Great Women in Compliance podcast’s guest for this week is Julie Bregnard, a Compliance professional who is relatively early into her career and going places fast.  Mary interviews Julie with a special focus on the job search, as Julie has just moved into a new role after five years at her first “real” job.  As discussed in the GWIC New Year episode several weeks ago to kick off 2023, the market for certain levels of Compliance staff is extremely favorable now.  Julie and Mary share some tips for further increasing job hunter success in the search.

 Julie also reflects on her time as a new graduate looking for her first job after university.  Mary asked Julie to give some tips on subject as she received a request to do an episode that is helpful to students.  Though further back in time, Mary still remembers how painful and demoralizing the search for your first professional full-time role can be and with this in mind, asked Julie to share some advice and encouragement for students on how to best stay motivated and on task throughout this time.

 As a Compliance practitioner who has been instrumental in strategizing on and delivering multiple Compliance Week events to her internal stakeholders, Julie provides some insights on what she thinks makes for a good Compliance Week and takes a broader view on how you can leverage them for ongoing dialogue in an organization.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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New Year’s Resolutions: A Conversation with the Compliance Community

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley and to the new GWIC year. Mary and Lisa are back, and looking forward to another season of interesting discussions with fabulous people where we can learn, talk and build our community.  We are always looking to continue these discussions, so please reach out to us, and don’t miss Mary’s monthly column on Corporate Compliance Insights called “Living Your Best Compliance Life.”

In this episode, Lisa and Mary kick off the year with a New Year’s Resolution themed-episode discussing what compliance officers should commit to, focus on and/or prioritize in 2023.   They discuss various substantive issues, such as the DOJ statements on ephemeral communications, what they understand and how much they are looking forward to the forthcoming guidance. Mary also discusses some of the recent cases and developments at the end of 2022, and Lisa includes her thoughts about the intersection of ESG and Compliance.  They also discuss the future of remote work in compliance, and how that is impacting the job market.

No Mary and Lisa discussion is not complete without some work/life comments and resolutions, so those will be shared as well.  As always, they include the hope that everyone is sending the elevator back down.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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SCCE Roundup with Lisa and Mary

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

The 2022 Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics, Compliance and Ethics Institute took place last week in Phoenix, Arizona.  There was a mix of both in person and virtual attendees with a person presence significantly bolstered compared with the 2021 crowd, the first in person ECI since the pandemic hit.  In 2023 it really felt like things were back and the Great Women in Compliance podcast hosts, Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley, debrief listeners with a roundup of highlights and musings from the conference, as well as handing out a few prized GWICies.

 Lisa and Mary both critically analyze some aspects of the conference and sessions, as well as take their usual lighthearted and informal approach to discussing what they thought went well, where there were areas of opportunity, surprises and how they each dealt with unforeseen challenges – from the beginning of the conference and throughout – including Lisa’s hangry misfortune and Mary nearly causing an international incident at a piano bar.

 Join us for this special joint episode and re-live the conference for those that attended and cure your FOMO for those who were unable to make it.

 The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.  Don’t forget to send the elevator back down by passing on your copy to someone who you think might enjoy reading it when you’re done, or if you can’t bear parting with your copy, consider it as a holiday or appreciation gift for someone in Compliance who deserves a treat.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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GWIC x The Ethics Experts-Mary’s Episode

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

For the next two weeks, the GWIC team are presenting a collab with ComplianceLine: GWIC X The Ethics Experts! Mary and Lisa start their throwback Wednesday sessions by harking all the way back to the early days of COVID19, where Mary’s episode was recorded while she was in the New Zealand coronavirus lockdown.

Gio Gallo interviewed Mary about her leadership style – especially focused on giving (junior) staff substantive, meaningful work and wings to fly while setting out a safety net, how not to slip into complacency in your Compliance program by being reassured of historical achievements, and understanding that there is no lowest common denominator. Learn how you can use surveys to tap into your most vulnerable areas you don’t even know you have.

 Check out Lisa’s interview on the Ethics Experts here on the Great Women in Compliance Podcast on 19 October!

 On 26 October, Mary and Lisa will return to their regular programming with a joint episode on learnings, insights, and observations from the Society of Corporate Compliance and Ethics Compliance and Ethics Institute. Want to be a part of the fun? Introduce yourself to Lisa and Mary at the conference – you’ll be able to spot them by their GWIC tote bags that Lisa kindly procured for the duo.

The Great Women in Compliance podcast is excited to look at topics like this one, and we are always open to suggestions for guests.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. If you have a moment to leave a review at the same time, Mary and Lisa would be so grateful.

You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020). If you enjoyed the book, the GWIC team would be very grateful if you would consider rating it on Goodreads and Amazon and leaving a short review.

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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Mia Reini on DIY Compliance


Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.
In this week’s episode of Great Women in Compliance, Mary brings the team back from break with an interview with Mia Reini, a Compliance leader at the Home Depot.  Mia tells us about her efforts to bring Home Depot’s Compliance awareness initiatives external to the company as a goal, discusses the difference between risk management and compliance, and tips for policy governance.
We often get asked whether we accept recommendations or nominations for GWIC guests – the answer is absolutely!  We’ll be happy to receive any suggestions and feedback – send them through to podcast@greatwomenincompliance.com detailing what makes the individual stand out as a great woman in compliance. Please kindly note that we are not an advertising agency and do not accept nominations for the purpose of vendor marketing, in order to ensure consistently high quality of episodes.
The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).
You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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Jill Atstupenas-Hadley Maeve


Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.
Trigger warning: This episode contains a baby loss story and theme.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast often covers instances of “doing the right thing”.  We’ve previously done it regarding respect and dignity in the hiring process and today’s episode focuses on empathy and compassion by employers when employees suffer a tragedy.  Jill Atstupenas shares her and her husband’s story of losing their dearly desired baby girl, Hadley Maeve and provides some thoughtful considerations for how managers and company staff more broadly can respond in a way that shows support for the colleague and lets them know they are a valued member of staff.  Her ideas are practical, tangible and actionable items that will guide managers who truly care about their staff.  The title of today’s episode is our tribute to Hadley Maeve.
Jill also discusses how peers and other colleagues can help a colleague going through a difficult time to navigate it so that even if you’re not a manager, you can walk the walk of being a beacon of integrity in an organization.
We end the episode with Jill discussing some of the differences for Compliance Officers transitioning from a well-established large company, to a smaller one with less of a history.
The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).
You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.
Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.