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2 Gurus Talk Compliance: Episode 81 – The Having Way Too Much Fun Edition

What happens when two top compliance commentators get together? They talk compliance, of course. Join Tom Fox and Kristy Grant-Hart in 2 Gurus Talk Compliance as they discuss the latest compliance issues in this week’s episode!

Stories This Week Include:

  • Asante Berko guilty verdict—attached.
  • New ESPN 30 for 30 pod reviews the corruption case of Ohtani’s translator. (ESPN)
  • CapOne fired Trump Organization for AML deficiencies. (Reuters)
  • Victims of LaFarge terrorist funding want a piece of the settlement. (WSJ)
  • FBI agent apparently misses the tutorial on corruption. (Gizmodo)
  • For Some Workers, AI Resistance Is a Matter of Faith (Corporate Compliance Insights)
  • How OpenAI Agents Plotted and Breached Hugging Face (Cybermagazine)
  • Russia’s Hottest Startup Is a State-Backed Sanctions Evasion Network (WSJ)
  • UBS Nailed on Repeated AML Failures (Radical Compliance)
  • Polk Sheriff Grady Judd’s picture stolen from substation; Florida man arrested: ‘He stole my picture ‘ (FOX13 News)

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Daily Compliance News: August 4, 2026, The A Piece of the Action Edition

Welcome to the Daily Compliance News. Each day, Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you compliance-related stories to start your day. Sit back, enjoy a cup of morning coffee, and listen in to the Daily Compliance News. All, from the Compliance Podcast Network. Each day, we consider four stories from the business world, compliance, ethics, risk management, leadership, or general interest for the compliance professional.

Top stories include:

  • US cricketer handed an 8-year ban for corruption. (The Times of India)
  • Victims of Lafarge terrorist funding want a piece of the settlement. (WSJ)
  • Ex-Goldman compliance manager fired for taking parental leave. (Bloomberg)
  • In praise of work deadlines. (FT)

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2 Gurus Talk Compliance – Episode 75 – The End of White Collar Edition

What happens when two top compliance commentators get together? They talk compliance, of course. Join Tom Fox and Kristy Grant-Hart in 2 Gurus Talk Compliance as they discuss the latest compliance issues in this week’s episode!

 Stories this week include:

  • The Trump Administration retreats on white-collar crime. (The Dispatch)
  • Live Nation found guilty of monopolization. (WSJ)
  • White-collar defense lawyers are not busy under the Trump Administration. (FT)
  • Former LaFarge CEO guilty in corruption case. (Bloomberg)
  • How much does the Annoyance Economy cost you?  (NYT)
  • Justice Department Nears Filing Antitrust Case Against Egg Producers (WSJ)
  • $253M Settlement Raises the Bar on Re-Exports, ‘Dual‑Build’ Models & Entity List Risk (Corporate Compliance Insights)
  • The foundational importance of export jurisdiction – Corporate Compliance Insights
  • ‘Made in America’ Compliance! (Radical Compliance)
  • The Compliance Blind Spots Hiding Inside Financial Data (Corporate Compliance Insights)
  • Key West man accused of shining laser gloves into police cars faces 3 felonies

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Daily Compliance News: April 15, 2026, The Decoupling Edition

Welcome to the Daily Compliance News. Each day, Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you compliance-related stories to start your day. Sit back, enjoy a cup of morning coffee, and listen in to the Daily Compliance News. All, from the Compliance Podcast Network. Each day, we consider four stories from the business world, compliance, ethics, risk management, leadership, or general interest for the compliance professional.

Top stories include:

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Aly McDevitt Week: Part 3 – Lafarge, Syria, and When “Business Continuity” Becomes Criminality

This week, I want to pay tribute to my former Compliance Week colleague, Aly McDevitt, who announced on LinkedIn that she was retiring from CW to become a full-time mother. I wrote a tribute to Aly, which appeared in CW last week. To prepare to write that piece, I re-read her long-form case studies, which she wrote over the years for CW. They are as compelling today as when she wrote them. This week, I will be paying tribute to Aly by reviewing five of her pieces. The schedule for this week is:

Monday: A Tale of Two Storms

Tuesday: Coming Clean

Wednesday: Inside a Dark Pact

Thursday: Reaching Into the Value Chain

Friday: Ransomware Attack: An immersive case study of a cyber event based on real-life scenarios

In this case study, Aly took a scandal that could easily be reduced to a shocking headline and showed how misconduct often grows incrementally, decision by decision, concession by concession, until a company crosses a line it can no longer explain away. As McDevitt framed it, Lafarge’s collapse into criminal conduct was not sudden. What began as “local concessions” in a war zone ended in terrorist financing, a guilty plea, and a historic compliance disaster.

For the corporate compliance professional, that is where this story starts. Not with ISIS. Not with the guilty plea. Not even with Syria’s descent into civil war. It starts with a corporate mindset that treats business continuity as a value higher than legal and ethical boundaries.

McDevitt lays out the core facts with devastating clarity. Lafarge built a $680 million cement plant in the Jalabiyeh region of Syria in 2010, just as the Arab Spring began to reshape the region. The plant, Lafarge Cement Syria, was strategically important, but it also operated in an increasingly unstable environment. By 2011, political unrest in Syria had become a violent conflict. By 2012, the area around the plant was plagued by kidnappings, hijackings, and the killing of a contractor at a checkpoint. Most companies would view those developments as bright red stop signs. Lafarge saw them as obstacles to manage.

That is the first major lesson of the case study. The most dangerous compliance failures often arise not from ignorance of risk but from a conscious decision to keep operating despite it. McDevitt shows that while other companies pulled out of Syria, Lafarge kept the plant running and shifted management of Syrian operations to Cairo after evacuating European employees. That decision set the stage for the next step: negotiating through intermediaries with armed factions to permit continued operations. By then, the moral and legal slope was already slippery. The question was no longer whether the company faced risk. The question was how much compromise leadership was willing to tolerate to avoid writing off a major investment.

McDevitt’s reporting is especially effective because it captures the gradualism of the wrongdoing. She writes that Lafarge executives did not wake up one day and decide to fund terrorists. It happened slowly, one deal after another, as the company tried to preserve operations in a deteriorating war zone. This is a point every compliance professional should sit with. Catastrophic misconduct often results from the accumulation of rationalized, smaller acts. Each one is framed as temporary, practical, or necessary. Each one moves the line. Eventually, there is no line left.

The Justice Department ultimately found that Lafarge routed about $5.92 million in illicit payments to the al-Nusra Front and ISIS. In 2022, Lafarge pleaded guilty in the United States to providing material support to terrorist organizations, the first case of its kind against a corporation in the U.S. Former Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco said the company “paid millions of dollars to both terrorist groups and benefited from their brutality to the tune of $70 million in revenue,” and the company paid $778 million in fines and forfeitures as part of the plea agreement.

That number alone should command the attention of boards and executive teams. Lafarge tried to avoid the business pain of shutting down a troubled asset and ended up paying more than the original investment in penalties, while also suffering deep reputational damage, legal exposure in multiple jurisdictions, and criminal proceedings against former executives. There is a brutal irony in that outcome. The Syrian plant accounted for less than 1% of Lafarge’s total sales at the time of the Holcim merger, yet the consequences of non-compliance proved vastly disproportionate to the asset’s commercial importance. That is the second lesson. The smaller the business rationale, the less defensible the compliance compromise.

McDevitt also explains why the U.S. Department of Justice had jurisdiction. Lafarge used U.S.-based email services to avoid using company email addresses, and some payments linked to terrorist groups were made in U.S. dollars through New York banks. This should resonate with every multinational company. Jurisdiction in modern enforcement is not limited by headquarters location. It is created through systems, currency flows, communications infrastructure, and business touchpoints. In a global company, you can be hauled into a U.S. enforcement action because you used the plumbing of U.S. commerce.

McDevitt’s account also reveals something even more troubling. By September 2013, Lafarge executives were already acknowledging the reality in their own meeting minutes, stating that it was becoming harder and harder to operate without directly or indirectly negotiating with networks designated as terrorists by international organizations and the United States. That line should stop every compliance officer in their tracks. At that moment, the risk was no longer ambiguous. It was known, articulated, and documented. The failure thereafter was not one of detection. It was one of the decision-making processes.

And that brings us to the heart of the compliance lesson. Once a company understands the legal and ethical nature of the risk, the compliance function is not merely to record the issue. The job is to create a decision architecture that can force the right outcome, even when business leadership hates it.

McDevitt reinforces this through the voice of Marcia Narine Weldon, who said, “business continuity can’t be an excuse for abandoning core legal and ethical principles” and even more pointedly, “When you’re dealing with potential terrorism financing, neutrality isn’t an option. You either stop it or you become complicit”. That is exactly right. There are categories of risk where compromise is not prudent; balancing is complicity. Terrorist financing sits squarely in that category.

Another important aspect of McDevitt’s case study is the timeline of internal response. Holcim, after its merger with Lafarge, became aware in 2016 of allegations that Lafarge had negotiated with ISIS and made payments to it. The head of compliance informed the Chief Legal and Compliance Officer that outside counsel had been engaged for legal analysis, and the board’s finance and audit committee directed an investigation. This sequence shows what a post-discovery escalation should look like. But it also highlights a painful truth: escalation after the fact is not the same as prevention. The best board briefing in 2016 could not undo the wrong choices made years earlier.

For compliance leaders, the Lafarge matter is therefore a case study in the limits of retrospective governance. Once the organization has crossed the line into criminal conduct, the role of compliance shifts from prevention to damage containment.

McDevitt weaves this throughout the piece with precision. She does not sensationalize the conduct. She shows how a company operating in a volatile, high-risk environment allowed ethics and compliance to take a back seat to business survival. That is what makes the article so valuable. It reminds us that in high-pressure environments, compliance is not a support function sitting politely on the sidelines. It is the adult in the room. Sometimes that means telling management to shut down an operation. Sometimes it means escalating to the board. Sometimes it means resigning rather than participating in the unambiguously wrong.

In the end, Inside a Dark Pact is one of Aly McDevitt’s strongest cautionary tales because it strips away comforting myths. It tells us that smart people can rationalize the indefensible. It tells us that local concessions can become global crimes. And it tells us that when a company places asset preservation above values, it may preserve neither.

Join us tomorrow when we review Aly’s piece on Flex and its ESG journey. I am a columnist for Compliance Week.

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From the Editor’s Desk – Compliance Week’s Insights and Reflections for September and into October 2025

In this episode of ‘The Editor’s Desk’ podcast, hosts Tom Fox and Aaron Nicodemus delve into key compliance issues featured in Compliance Week.

Tom and Aaron discuss top stories from Compliance Week in September, and provide a preview of upcoming content and events. They delve into a three-part case study on Lafarge’s bribery payments to terrorist groups in Syria, exploring its implications for companies operating in high-risk regions. They also discuss a resurfaced case study involving Jeffrey Epstein, JPMorgan Chase, and Deutsche Bank. The episode also highlights Ruth Prickett’s report on digital wallets in Europe, as well as the related compliance and data privacy issues. Additionally, they cover trends in FCPA enforcement, healthcare compliance with a focus on the FCA, immigration issues, and the importance of proactive compliance programs. The episode wraps up with insights into the upcoming ‘Inside the Mind of the CCO‘ survey and the January conference on AI and data analytics in compliance.

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Compliance Week’s Reflections from August and Insights into September 2025

In this episode of ‘From The Editor’s Desk’ podcast, hosts Tom Fox and Aaron Nicodemus delve into key compliance issues featured in Compliance Week. They discuss the heightened risks for companies doing business in Mexico due to connections with cartels, recent enforcement actions stemming from these connections, and the Trump administration’s first FCPA bribery case. They also preview an upcoming case study on Lafarge’s operations in Syria and introduce new website features, including CW Connect, designed to foster meaningful conversations among compliance officers. Additionally, they highlight best practices and preview articles planned for National Compliance Officer Day.

Highlights include:

  • Top Compliance Stories in August 2025
  • Risks of Doing Business in Mexico
  • FCPA Enforcement Actions and Investigations
  • Upcoming Case Study on Lafarge
  • Website Redesign and New Features

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October and November in Compliance Week

Welcome to From the Editor’s Desk, a podcast where co-hosts Tom Fox and Kyle Brasseur, EIC at Compliance Week, unpack some of the top stories which have appeared in Compliance Week over the past month, look at top compliance stories upcoming for the next month, talk some sports and generally try to solve the world’s problems.

In this month’s episode, we look back at top stories in CW from October around the Lafarge criminal action, the former Uber CISO convicted criminally for attempting to hide a data breach, and the agreement between Google and the DOJ for the company to create a position of a legal compliance monitor. We previewed some of the stories CW will look at in November, including the current state of SEC rulemaking, and Kyle teased out some findings from the CW ‘Inside the Mind of the CCO’ survey, which recently concluded.

We conclude with a look at some of the top sports stories, including a look at a Red Sox fan’s view of the 2022 World Series, ask about a quarterback controversy in New England and overreact to the first week of the NBA season.

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Lafarge Part 3: Final Thoughts

We conclude our exploration of one of the most public cases of corporate moral bankruptcy where Lafarge SA and its Syria unit Lafarge Cement Syria, or LCS, each pled guilty to a count of conspiring to provide material support to foreign terrorist organizations and will pay a total of $777.78 million.  According to the Plea Agreement, this amount consisted of a total criminal fine of approximately $91 million and forfeiture of $687 million. As previously noted, this is not a Foreign Corrupt Practices Act (FCPA) enforcement action, but an enforcement action based on USC §2339B for one count of conspiracy to provide material support to one or more foreign terrorist organizations. While this is not a FCPA enforcement action, the mechanisms by which Lafarge paid bribes or otherwise funded the terrorist organizations ISIS and ANF are instructive for the anti-corruption compliance professional. These strategies were laid out in the Statement of Facts and considered in Part 2 of this series.

The Costs of Corruption

One clear message from this matter is the cost of moral bankruptcy and corruption. As noted in the Statement of Facts, “From August 2013 through October 2014, Lafarge and LCS paid ISIS and ANF, through intermediaries, the equivalent of approximately $5.92 million.” For that amount of corruption, through the funding of terrorist and terrorism, Lafarge will pay a total fine of $777.78 million. About the only FCPA matter which comes close to this disparity in the amount of the bribe and penalty was the Avon FCPA enforcement action where bribes totaling $8 million led to led to a reported total penalty of $135 million. By the time of the resolution, Avon also had reported over $300 million in investigative costs.

At the times of the incidents in questions, 2012 to 2014, Lafarge had annual sales in the range of $2 billion plus and annual revenues in the range of $400 to $435 million. Very clearly the bribes paid by Lafarge were not material in the financial accounting sense. That may have been why no one seemed to be looking at the company. However, it drives home the point that a relatively small amount of corporate outgo can generate huge costs in the form of a $777.78 million fine. We have not begun to discuss the pre-resolution costs but in FCPA cases they are in the range of two to six times the final fine. Even if the pre-resolution costs were 1X the fine, that would still drive the all-in cost over $1.5 billion.

Monitoring Non-Standard Communications

One of the areas that bears consideration by the compliance professional is that of internal communications, as, “Many of the Lafarge and LCS executives involved in the scheme used personal email addresses, rather than their corporate email addresses, to carry out of the conspiracy.” In September, the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) announced “charges against 15 broker-dealers and one affiliated investment adviser for widespread and longstanding failures by the firms and their employees to maintain and preserve electronic communications. The firms admitted the facts set forth in their respective SEC orders, acknowledged that their conduct violated recordkeeping provisions of the federal securities laws, agreed to pay combined penalties of more than $1.1 billion, and have begun implementing improvements to their compliance policies and procedures to settle these matters.”

In a recent speech (Miller speech), Principal Associate Deputy Attorney General Marshall Miller said, after the announcement of the Monaco Doctrine, in a section entitled “Meeting the Compliance Challenges of Communications Technology”, “Now let me turn to an area that we recognize is a big challenge for all organizations — employees’ use of personal devices and third-party messaging platforms for work-related communications… particularly as to detecting their use for misconduct. However a company chooses to address their use for business communications, the end result must be the same: companies need to prevent circumvention of compliance protocols through off-system activity, preserve all key data and communications and have the capability to promptly produce that information for government investigations.”

Now consider that whopping fine and enforcement action in the context of the fraud of Lafarge executives. The Miller speech focused on both messaging apps and other forms of corporate communications. In the Lafarge matter, the communications were very basic, on company computers using non-company emails through channels like AOL or Gmail. The Lafarge executives were using these outside of standard communication channels to facilitate their crimes with ISIS and ANF. This part of the enforcement action has not received much scrutiny but is something every compliance professional needs to consider – are your employees (or execs) using non-company emails or other forms of communication tools outside of standard company communication methods? The compliance function needs to work with their corporate IT folks to make sure no executives or employees are using such channels for communications and to monitor them if they are.

Failures in M&A Due Diligence

The final area for consideration is that of Mergers and Acquisitions (M&A). The Statement of Facts noted, “LAFARGE and certain of its executives, in fact, failed to disclose LCS’s dealings with ISIS and ANF to Holcim throughout discussions of the transaction and after completion of the deal. LCS had ceased producing cement in Syria by the time the transaction with Holcim was completed, and in the approximately seven months between the completion of the acquisition and the emergence of public allegations regarding the misconduct in Syria, Holcim did not conduct post-acquisition due diligence about LCS’s operations in Syria.”

Not only did the Lafarge executives not disclose this corruption to Holcim, but they also actively discussed continuing the corruption payment so as not to derail the transaction. Moreover, Holcim apparently did not conduct due diligence into LCS or any of these matters. Perhaps the non-material nature of the payments was a factor. Whatever the excuse for this pre-acquisition due diligence failure, it cost Holcim dearly. Even if Holcim was not assessed the fine, they were the entity which bore the administrative and emotional costs of the investigation leading up to the resolution. Dan Chapman once told me that in an all-encompassing investigation, it could take up to 25% of senior executives time. Given the number of investigations across the globe on this matter, that figure might be lower. All of these factors bear witness to the extraordinary costs for the failure of an acquiring company to perform compliance due diligence prior to closing.

We are now at the end of this short blog series. The Lafarge case is perhaps the first corporate matter since the oil-for-food cases where complete corporate moral bankruptcy has played such a factor. We can only hope that it will be that long until we see the next such example.

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Lafarge and the Cost of Moral Bankruptcy

The award-winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject. In this episode, we consider the recent guilty plea by Lafarge, the French cement giant now owned by Holcim, for paying bribes and protection money to ISIS and doing business in Syria with ISIS. Highlights include:

  • What are the background facts?
  • What were the bribery and payment schemes?
  • What are the compliance lessons learned?
  • How will the victim status play out?
  • Who will guarantee compliance of Lafarge with the Plea Agreement?

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