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12 O’Clock High-a podcast on business leadership

12 O’Clock High, A Podcast on Business Leadership – Leadership in Cybersecurity and Privacy with Robert Meyers

12 O’Clock High, an award-winning podcast on business leadership, brings together stories from history, the arts, sports, movies, research, and current events to consider leadership lessons. In this episode, Tom Fox welcomes Robert Meyers, a veteran with over 30 years in cybersecurity, privacy, M&A security, and education.

The discussion spans Meyers’s vast professional journey from the early days of IT to the modern challenges and practices of data protection. They also explore the differences in cybersecurity and privacy perspectives between the US and Europe, the importance of cross-functional collaboration in organizations, and how new technologies like autonomous AI systems are reshaping security models. Meyers also shares his passion for Comic-Con and offers advice for students and new professionals considering a career in cybersecurity and privacy. The episode wraps up with insights into Meyers’s books and practical advice for integrating privacy principles and cybersecurity tools in today’s business environment.

Key highlights:

  • Robert Meyers’ Professional Background
  • Early Cybersecurity Challenges and Lessons
  • Evolution of Cybersecurity and Privacy
  • Privacy Perspectives: US vs Europe
  • Role of Executives in Cybersecurity and Privacy
  • Cross-Functional Collaboration in Privacy and Security
  • Innovative Cybersecurity Tools
  • Agentic AI and Its Implications
  • Comic-Con and Professional Insights
  • Career Advice for Aspiring Professionals

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Privacy Snippets for the Cybersecurity Professional on Amazon

Robert Meyers’ Profile on Amazon

Robert Meyers ‘on LinkedIn

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Compliance and AI

Compliance and AI – Cybersecurity Insights with Robert Meyers – Privacy, Data, and AI Challenges

What is the role of Artificial Intelligence in compliance? What about Machine Learning? Are you using ChatGPT? These questions are just three of the many we will explore in this cutting-edge podcast series, Compliance and AI, hosted by Tom Fox, the award-winning Voice of Compliance. In this episode, Tom Fox interviews Robert Meyers, a cybersecurity and privacy expert with over 30 years of experience.

Meyers shares his professional journey, emphasizing the evolution of IT and cybersecurity practices. He discusses significant privacy challenges, including data breaches and the philosophical divide between US and European privacy laws. The conversation also covers the integration of privacy principles and cybersecurity tools, the importance of cross-functional collaboration, and the role of agentic AI in reshaping security models. Additionally, Meyers highlights his ongoing work, including his book ‘Privacy Snippets for the Cybersecurity Professional,’ and his dedication to volunteer work at San Diego Comic-Con.

Key highlights:

  • Robert Meyers’ Professional Background
  • Early Cybersecurity Challenges
  • Evolution of Privacy and Security
  • Privacy Perspectives: US vs Europe
  • Role of Executives in Cybersecurity
  • Cross-Functional Collaboration
  • Innovative Cybersecurity Tools
  • Agentic AI and Privacy
  • Comic-Con and Professional Insights
  • Career Advice for Aspiring Professionals

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Privacy Snippets for the Cybersecurity Professional on Amazon

Robert Meyers’ Profile on Amazon

Robert Meyers’ on LinkedIn

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What’s Under Your Hood? The CCPA and Compliance

California’s privacy agency, the California Privacy Protection Agency (CCPA), targeted design features and contracting policies used by many companies in its inaugural enforcement strike under the state’s data privacy law. This demonstrates a “broad regulatory approach experts say promises to heat up as the agency continues to mature.” In an article in Law360, author Allison Grande looked at the recent enforcement action against American Honda Motors Company (Honda).

California’s recent privacy enforcement action against Honda has made headlines, and rightly so. This inaugural move by the California Privacy Protection Agency (CPPA) sends an unmistakable signal to corporate compliance professionals: it’s time to examine data privacy practices closely or risk significant consequences.

The CPPA’s allegations against Honda were not industry-specific; instead, the allegations highlighted universal challenges and concerns around data privacy practices and compliance that apply broadly across sectors. Why should compliance professionals sit up and pay close attention?

Firstly, consider consumer data requests. Honda faced scrutiny for requiring excessive information from consumers exercising their privacy rights, specifically when opting out or limiting data use. This nuanced point underscores a critical compliance lesson: not all privacy rights are equal, nor should they be managed uniformly. Compliance teams must tailor their mechanisms, perhaps even developing distinct web forms or processes, to differentiate between requests requiring identity verification and those not.

Grande quoted Gregory Leighton from Polsinelli PC, who said, “Once there’s an investigation open, the CPPA will clearly look at everything.” An open investigation invites regulators to scrutinize every aspect of your compliance program. Compliance teams need robust processes and airtight documentation to withstand such scrutiny.

Secondly, the issue of “symmetry in choice” came into sharp focus. Honda was flagged for making it more straightforward for users to activate advertising cookies than turning them off, a seemingly minor point with significant implications. It emphasizes that regulators now view user experience in data privacy tools through a strict compliance lens. A two-step process for disabling versus a one-step process for enabling cookies was enough to trigger regulatory criticism. Compliance officers should revisit user interfaces of consent management platforms and cookie notices, ensuring equal simplicity in opting both in and out.

Another critical compliance takeaway surrounds vendor management and contract documentation. Honda stumbled by not swiftly producing its contracts with third-party advertisers. This illustrates vividly that having contracts isn’t enough; immediate access and retrieval capability are equally crucial. Grande quoted Lily Li of Metaverse Law, who noted, “The Privacy Protection Agency was looking under the hood,” spotlighting the importance of being compliance-ready regarding documentation.

Beyond immediate lessons, this enforcement marks a new maturity stage for the CPPA. The agency’s stringent interpretations mean past assumptions about compliance, such as the adequacy of generic, broadly used privacy forms or common consent tools, are being upended. Compliance teams should anticipate increasingly rigorous scrutiny and proactive enforcement stances from regulators.

Lisa Sotto, chair of the global privacy and cybersecurity practice at Hunton Andrews Kurth LLP, summarized her thinking, indicating California’s regulator’s growing maturity and stringent interpretations. Similarly, Travis LeBlanc from Cooley LLP emphasizes that this enforcement action has broader implications for any company engaging digitally with consumers, highlighting the CPPA’s widening lens.

Adding to the urgency is the CPPA’s leadership transition. The incoming executive director, cybersecurity veteran Tom Kemp, signals a future of heightened enforcement activity. Kemp’s background and commitment to stringent enforcement strongly suggest a proactive regulatory stance.

Compliance professionals must recognize that federal pullback on data privacy regulation will likely spur increased state activity. California’s actions could be the vanguard for similar initiatives in other states. Manatt’s Brandon Reilly notes the completion of rulemaking and transition toward increased enforcement activities at the CPPA, predicting a significant uptick in regulatory actions.

In short, compliance teams must prioritize several key actions to remain ahead of this regulatory curve.

  • First, differentiated handling for various privacy rights requests is crucial. Compliance teams need precise frameworks and targeted methodologies to distinguish between requests that necessitate identity verification and those that do not, ensuring effective and compliant processes.
  • Second, ensuring symmetrical ease in privacy-related user choices demands careful evaluation of user interfaces and consent management tools. Regulators will increasingly expect businesses to offer equally simple options for consumers to turn data-sharing functions on or off, emphasizing intuitive design and fairness.
  • Third, rapid accessibility and comprehensive documentation of third-party contracts have become imperative. Compliance teams must establish contractual arrangements with vendors clearly defining data handling and protection standards and maintain them in an organized, readily accessible manner to respond swiftly to regulatory inquiries and investigations.

The CPPA’s Honda is not simply California-specific but a wake-up call nationwide. Compliance professionals must heed this signal and review and reinforce privacy programs proactively. As Leighton warns, the enforcement action is likely “just the tip of the iceberg.” Now is the time for compliance to look deeply and proactively under their data privacy hoods.

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Great Women in Compliance

Great Women in Compliance: Privacy and AI Compliance – A Principled Approach

In this episode of the Great Women in Compliance podcast, Hemma and Ellen host a roundtable with Hope Anderson, a partner in White & Case’s Data, Privacy & Cybersecurity Practice, and Jean Liu, Assistant General Counsel, Privacy, Safety, and Regulatory Affairs who joined Microsoft in 2023 as part of the Nuance Communications, Inc. acquisition.

Hope and Jean have a wealth of experience advising on privacy, AI, and data governance compliance issues, and they are well-positioned to leverage this experience in the wake of a rapidly evolving regulatory landscape. Hemma and Ellen didn’t waste a minute mining these two experts for practical tips and recommendations for those of us looking to get smart quickly and grapple with what seems like a behemoth task of keeping up with developments in technology and legislation while at the same time, making sure we don’t get left behind in learning to leverage AI in our functions.

Join us for an engaging ride through the ups and downs of privacy and AI compliance, and be inspired as we were by the great opportunities to develop new and exciting use cases while mitigating risk and the chance to unlock the power of responsible and ethical AI for our businesses.

Key Highlights:

  • Getting up to speed with the rapidly evolving regulatory landscape

  • The role of AI principles vs policies and procedures

  • Human Rights, Bias, and AI

  • Keeping the “Human in the Loop”

  • Thoughts on a US Federal AI or Privacy Law

  • Leveraging AI for Ethics and Compliance

  • Key resources and recommendations

Resources:

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Guest Bios:

Hope Anderson is a partner in White & Case’s Data, Privacy & Cybersecurity Practice, based in Los Angeles. She has extensive experience advising on all aspects of privacy and is at the forefront of Generative AI, advising on the technology’s legal implications and practical applications. A member of the Firm’s Global Technology Industry Group, Hope has extensive experience in privacy and product counseling. She advises on e-commerce, privacy by design, Generative AI, AR/VR, biometrics, analytics, and issues implicating consumer protection, marketing, and advertising laws.

Jean C. Liu is an Assistant General Counsel in the Privacy, Safety, and Regulatory Affairs division and joined Microsoft in 2023 as part of the Nuance Communications, Inc. acquisition. Immediately before its acquisition, Jean served as Nuance’s Vice President and Chief Legal, Compliance, and Privacy Officer, leading the global legal, compliance, and privacy functions. She developed and implemented data privacy policies and practices to ensure that customer and business data, including protected health information, is strictly governed and privacy is maintained. Jean has over 29 years of experience leading compliance and privacy programs, successfully managing data incidents, including regulatory investigations, and implementing best governance and risk management practices across multiple industries.

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2 Gurus Talk Compliance

2 Gurus Talk Compliance: Episode 28 — CZ v. SBF Edition

What happens when two top compliance commentators get together? They talk about compliance, of course. Join Tom Fox and Kristy Grant-Hart in 2 Gurus Talk Compliance as they discuss the latest compliance issues in this week’s episode!

In this episode, Tom and Kristy take on a wide variety of compliance related topics.

One of the key issues they look at are reports suggesting China is strategically relocating forced labor from the Uyghur region to different parts of the country in an attempt to bypass US laws prohibiting goods sourced from areas associated with forced labor.

This could trigger wider limitations on goods originating from China, stressing the necessity for intensive audits and transparency in business operations. This issue has sparked bipartisan concern, hinting at potential upcoming legal actions.

Tom stresses the need for companies to react effectively to reduce risks, possibly through on-the-ground audits and increased accountability in business operations in China. Kristy underscores the need for thorough audits and proactive measures in response to the risks associated with forced labor in China. She raises the possibility of legal consequences for companies found to be misleading about their involvement with forced labor. Both perspectives serve to underline the gravity and complexity of this issue.

Highlights Include:

  • An ex-McKinsey partner says he was scapegoated. (Reuters)
  • CFTC names its first AI Chief. (WSJ)
  • CZ gets 4 months. (WSJ)
  • FCPA violator Ericsson bemoans ‘over-regulation’.  (FT)
  • Corporate investigations are under scrutiny.   (FT)
  • China Moving Forced Laborers Amid U.S. Crackdown, Biden Official Says (WSJ)
  • Robinhood Crypto gets Wells notice from US SEC (Reuters)
  • Report Spotlights Privacy Access Requests (Radical Compliance)
  • Why Employee Bonuses Do Not Work (and What to Do Instead) (Inc.)
  • A Florida man runs to the police for help after committing a crime and ends up behind bars. (Aol.)

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Sunday Book Review

Sunday Book Review: July 16, 2023 – The Privacy Edition

In the Sunday Book Review, I consider books that would interest the compliance professional, the business executive, or anyone who might be curious. It could be books about business, compliance, history, leadership, current events, or anything else that might interest me. In today’s edition of the Sunday Book Review, now that summer is fully upon us, we look at books on privacy.

·      Privacy’s Blueprint by Woodrow Hartzog

·      Re-Engineering Humanity by Brett Frischmann and Evan Selinger

·      No Place to Hide by Glenn Greenwald

·      Why Privacy Matters by Neil Richards

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The TOP 21 Books in Privacy & Data Protection That You Must Read ASAP in Privacy Whisperer

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Compliance Into the Weeds

Compliance Issues & Events We Are Looking at for 2023

The award-winning, Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject. In this episode, Matt and I consider a list of compliance issues and events worth watching in the next 12 months, likely to happen in the coming year, that will be most consequential for corporate compliance and audit professionals.

For 2023 (at least at this point), it is the following:

·      SEC rules on greenhouse gases.

·      PCAOB enforcement.

·      The FTC and privacy enforcement.

·      Fallout from the Oracle FCPA enforcement action.

·      New DOJ corporate crime enforcement policies.

·      An ESG controller.

·      Crash and burn of Elon Musk-style corporate governance.

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Matt Kelly in Radical Compliance

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Uncovering Hidden Risks

Ep 4 – How Compliance, Data Protection, and Privacy Come Together

Alym Rayani, general manager for compliance and privacy marketing at Microsoft, joins host Erica Toelle and guest host Hammad Rajjoub on this week’s episode of Uncovering Hidden Risks. Alym works closely with engineering leadership to drive product strategy and roadmap while overseeing the product value proposition, marketing efforts, and customer experience. Due to these changes in regulations and increased cybersecurity risk, these areas are converging. Erica, Hammad, and Alym are taking a closer look at a top industry trend: convergence of compliance, data protection, and privacy requirements, and discussing what this means for Chief Information Security Officers.

In This Episode You Will Learn:

  • What areas create quick wins for organizations that create momentum for larger initiatives
  • What the answer is for CISOs to stay in compliance with regulations
  • Risks CISOs will face focusing on data protection without considering compliance and privacy

Some Questions We Ask:

  • What challenges are CISOs, privacy officers, and CCOs seeing from this convergence?
  • How are data protection and privacy changing the way CISOs approach new problems?
  • What should CISOs look for in a data protection technology solution?

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Related Microsoft Podcasts:         

Listen to: Afternoon Cyber Tea with Ann Johnson 

Listen to: Security Unlocked

Listen to: Security Unlocked: CISO Series with Bret Arsenault

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Integrity Through Compliance

Dionne Lomax and Kelly Graf Take a Look at Privacy and Cybersecurity Issues for 2021

Recorded before the recent Colonial Pipeline Ransomware attack, Affiliated Monitors, Inc.’s Managing Director, Dionne Lomax, sat down with Dentons’ Kelly Graf to discuss Privacy and Cybersecurity Issues for 2021 and Beyond. Kelly shares with our listeners how mature their security programs need to be in light of ransomware, phishing, and a post-COVID-19 Work From Home data protection environment. Now that cybersecurity is in the news more than ever, this conversation couldn’t be more relevant.
 

 
They cover topics including:
• The multi-trillion dollar growth in this criminal industry over the last decade
• The importance of remote working standards and network segmentation
• Class action lawsuits regarding large scale data breaches
• Ongoing trends in FTC enforcement of COPPA
• The modern sophistication of phishing and social engineering attacks
• The perverse incentives created by, and the unintended consequences of, the growing cybersecurity insurance industry
• The creative ways that lawyers have used outdated privacy laws to bring data security lawsuits
 
 

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The Compliance Life

The CCO and Privacy with Russ Berland


Tom Fox chats with Russ Berland about how his certification in privacy has facilitated him in his role as CCO.
Another Form Of Risk Management
A number of Russ’ clients needed to address privacy issues; however, the available resources were mostly European. He gained the Certified Information Privacy Professional certification so that he could meet the market need. Russ says that he looks at privacy as another form of risk management. We need to create a framework to comply with privacy laws, as well as investigate any potential violation.
Russ comments that privacy laws in the US are not as comprehensive as the EU’s GDPR. Privacy is generally seen as consumer protection in the US, while it is considered a human right in the EU.
Meeting State Standards
Tom comments that there is no national privacy law in the US at this point. He asks Russ how Aventiv thinks through crafting a privacy policy that might potentially have to satisfy 50 different state privacy laws. At present, Russ says, nine states have created privacy laws. Aventiv’s strategy is to meet the most stringent standards, and make that the national standard. Usually if you meet California’s standards, you can comply with the other states. Russ is pleased with Aventiv’s willingness to embrace compliance as a driver of their company culture.
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