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Making Ethics & Compliance Training Memorable: Part 4 – How Social Learning Can Engage Employees

There is not much I enjoy more than sitting down with one of the innovative thinkers in compliance, Carsten Tams, to find out what is on his mind regarding compliance. I recently had the opportunity to do so on making Ethics and Compliance (E&C) training memorable. We explored this topic over a five-part podcast series on the Innovation in Compliance podcast on the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network.

Over the next five blog posts, I will also explore these topics in the blog format. I will introduce the problem and challenges and then provide you with four proven strategies for success in your compliance training. I take a deep dive into why traditional E&C training often fails to engage employees and lacks impact on their behavior despite significant investments. In Part 4, we discuss the concept of social learning and how compliance professionals can use its tactics and strategies to make their compliance training more engaging and effective.

Social learning refers to learning from others, with each other, about each other, and to each other through both inbound and outbound collaboration. Tams noted that one prominent perspective is social constructivism, or the socio-cultural theory of development, formulated by Russian psychologist Lev Vygotsky in the late 19th century. He argued that people learn a lot through cultural interaction and osmosis. For instance, we know our native language by being around people, listening, and participating in conversation. This social process is also crucial for understanding social norms, ethical values, and interpersonal skills.

Tams then turned to Albert Bandura’s social learning theory, or vicarious learning, which emphasizes that much learning involves observing and emulating others. This introduced the concept of self-efficacy, which is our confidence in our ability to produce desired outcomes. Ethical behavior means having confidence in our ability to speak up about concerns. Bandura identifies two social sources that promote self-efficacy: vicarious mastery experiences or observing others succeed and social persuasion or encouragement from others.

This type of learning moves from formal training and communication to underpinning an organization’s culture. There are two key insights. First, much can be learned about ethics in social contexts. Creating social contexts where ethical behavior is practiced allows for profound learning. For example, team leaders could incorporate ethics discussions into regular meetings, similar to safety moments in safety management. This practice encourages continuous ethical reflection and dialogue.

Second, much of today’s ethics training is solitary, often involving interaction with a computer screen. However, some vital ethical skills can only be learned in social settings. These include social-emotional and interpersonal skills, such as handling difficult conversations, resolving conflicts, and speaking up about concerns. Learning these skills through interaction is more effective than solitary study.

Tams provided some practical applications to social learning. One useful approach is to facilitate group discussions around ethically challenging scenarios. For example, imagine a team learning that their leader plans to make a business decision that involves excessive wining and dining of a potential customer. The team discusses the ethical commitments at stake, brainstorms possible actions, and identifies resources within the organization. This process fosters a deeper understanding of ethics and builds social capital, such as trust and collective efficacy.

In these discussions, participants learn they are not alone in caring about ethics. They see that their colleagues are committed to ethical behavior and bring diverse perspectives to problem-solving. This experience builds confidence in their ability to act ethically and trust in their colleagues as allies and mentors.

Companies have successfully raised safety awareness by incorporating safety discussions and concepts into everyday work through safety moments and personal safety assessments. I believe we achieve the same level of detail and integration with ethics. Tams agreed, stating, “Just as safety moments remind employees to consider safety in all aspects of their work, regular ethics discussions can instill an ethical mindset. For example, team members could take turns discussing how different aspects of the code of conduct apply to their work. This reflection helps employees see the relevance of ethics to their daily tasks and decisions.”

Moreover, addressing seemingly minor ethical issues can have a significant impact. For instance, discussing the moral implications of small actions, like how to report minor infractions or handle sensitive information, can reinforce the importance of ethical behavior in all areas of work. These discussions help employees internalize ethical principles and recognize that ethics is integral to their work, not just an abstract concept managed by the ethics department.

Integrating social learning into ethics training can transform an organization’s culture. By fostering continuous dialogue about ethics, organizations can create an environment where ethical behavior is expected and supported. This approach builds a solid moral foundation, encouraging employees to act with integrity and confidence.

Social learning also helps build a sense of community and shared responsibility. When employees see their peers and leaders engaging in ethical discussions and actions, it reinforces the importance of ethics and creates a supportive network. This network can provide guidance, mentorship, and encouragement, strengthening the organization’s ethical culture.

Making ethics and compliance learning social is a powerful strategy for building an organization’s strong ethical culture. By engaging employees in interactive, collaborative learning experiences, organizations can foster a deeper understanding of moral principles and encourage moral behavior. Integrating social learning into ethics training enhances individual skills and builds social capital, creating a supportive and trusting environment where employees feel empowered to act ethically.

To implement social learning in your organization, consider the following steps:

  1. Incorporate Ethics Discussions into Regular Meetings: Make ethics a regular part of team meetings by discussing ethical scenarios, sharing personal experiences, and reflecting on the code of conduct.
  2. Facilitate Group Problem-Solving: Use group discussions to tackle ethical challenges, encouraging employees to share diverse perspectives and collaboratively develop solutions.
  3. Encourage Peer Support and Mentorship: Promote a mentorship and support culture where employees can seek advice and encouragement from their peers and leaders.
  4. Recognize and Celebrate Ethical Behavior: Highlight and reward examples of ethical behavior, reinforcing the importance of ethics and encouraging others to follow suit.

By taking these steps, compliance professionals can harness the power of social learning to enhance their training programs and build a robust ethical culture within their organizations.

Join us in our concluding blog post, where we consider why you should make your compliance training regime playful.

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Making Compliance Training Memorable: Gamechanger 2 – Make it Experiential

There is not much I enjoy more than sitting down with one of the innovative thinkers in compliance, Carsten Tams to find out what is on his mind regarding compliance. Tom Fox recently had the opportunity to do so on the topic of making compliance training memorable. Over this short, five-part series, we will introduce the problem and challenges and then provide you with four proven strategies for success in your compliance training.

In this Episode 3, we discuss the concept of experiential learning as a gamechanger to enhance overall learning scope, motivation, retention and transfer; emphasizing its importance over conventional learning methods.

Experiential learning means learning by doing. When we are passive learners in front of a screen, clicking on the forward button or checking boxes, learning remains shallow. Experiential ethics learning is not simply about feeding abstract information about an ethics topic into learners’ minds.

It is instead about the tight coupling of thinking with doing. An experiential learning activity is about posing a problem that is relevant to the learner. It is then up to the learner to tap into their existing knowledge and use their ingenuity and creative problem-solving skills to find a feasible solution for the problem at hand.

Using practical examples, Carsten explains how experiential learning engages learners in problem-solving and hands-on experiences, leading to better retention and application of knowledge.

They explore the historical roots of the concept, drawing from thinkers like Aristotle, Confucius, John Dewey, and modern cognitive research. The discussion also covers ways to implement experiential learning in organizational settings, addressing potential concerns about documenting these methods for regulatory compliance.

Highlights and Key Issues Discussed: 

  • Introduction to Experiential Learning in Compliance and Ethics Training
  • Exploring the Basics of Experiential Learning
  • Applying Experiential Learning in Compliance and Ethics
  • Historical Context and Theoretical Foundations of Experiential Learning
  • Practical Implementation and Documentation for Compliance Professionals

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For Additional Reading

  • Dewey, J. (1938). Experience and education. New York: Simon and Schuster.
  • Kolb, D.A. (2015). Experiential Learning: Experience as the Source of Learning and Development, 2nd Ed. New York, NY: Pearson.
  • Burch, G. F., Giambatista, R., Batchelor, J. H., Burch, J. J., Hoover, J. D., & Heller, N. A. (2019). A meta‐analysis of the relationship between experiential learning and learning outcomes. Decision Sciences Journal of Innovative Education, 17(3), 239–273. https://doi.org/10.1111/dsji.12188

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Making Ethics & Compliance Training Memorable: Part 3 – How Experiential Learning Can Engage Employees

There is not much I enjoy more than sitting down with one of the innovative thinkers in compliance, Carsten Tams, to find out what he is thinking about compliance. I recently had the opportunity to make Ethics and Compliance (E&C) training memorable. We explored this topic over a five-part podcast series on the Innovation in Compliance podcast on the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network.

I will explore these topics in the blog format over the next five blog posts. I will introduce the problem and challenges and then provide you with four proven strategies for success in your compliance training. I will take a deep dive into why traditional E&C training often fails to engage employees and lacks impact on their behavior despite significant investments. In Part 3, we discuss the concept of experiential learning and how compliance professionals can use its tactics and strategies to make their compliance training more engaging and effective.

We began with the basics of the theory and practical aspects of experiential learning. Tams started with a metaphor, “Imagine learning how a motorcycle engine works. One way is to read the manual, study the technical drawings, and understand it theoretically. Alternatively, you could disassemble the engine, experiencing the resistance of the nuts and bolts, and then reassemble it. This hands-on approach exemplifies experiential learning.” It is not simply about receiving information but actively generating knowledge through problem-solving, building, and experimenting. This method leads to a deeper understanding of issues, better retention of information, and improved ability to apply learned concepts to new situations.

We then explored how compliance professionals utilize experiential learning and what it looks like in the ethics and compliance world. In organizational ethics, experiential learning can be implemented in various ways. One effective method is to create lifelike scenarios for small groups to solve. Tams noted, “Consider a scenario where an employee overhears a discussion about hiring a new colleague, focusing on inappropriate criteria such as gender or ethnic background. The group’s task is to develop a strategy to address this ethically.”

Participants should consider the ethical commitments at stake, brainstorm possible actions, and identify available resources and support within the organization. This approach helps understand ethical behavior and engages learners in practical problem-solving, making the training more impactful.

The user experience is crucial. Experiential learning engages participants profoundly, making the training more memorable and effective. Historically, the concept of experiential learning is ancient. Tams pointed to Aristotle, who emphasized learning by doing, particularly in ethics, stating that people become just by performing just acts. Confucius also highlighted the importance of experiential learning. In the 20th century, educational theorists like John Dewey, David Kolb, and Maria Montessori further developed these ideas, emphasizing the role of hands-on experiences in learning. Modern cognitive science supports this, showing that cognition is closely linked to action and sensory experiences.

One important concern is addressing regulatory concerns should the DOJ or SEC ever require compliance training as laid out in the 2023 Evaluation of Corporate Compliance Programs. Tams believes a “blended approach can address it. While experiential learning offers deeper engagement, foundational online training can provide basic information and ensure documentation. Combining both methods allows organizations to meet regulatory requirements while enhancing the overall training effectiveness.”

For large organizations, scaling experiential learning is possible through a train-the-facilitator model. Ethics ambassadors or compliance champions can be trained to conduct these sessions locally, ensuring broader reach without compromising on the quality of the training experience.

We concluded with some practical steps to implement experiential learning. They include:

  1. Start Small: Integrate experiential learning into existing meetings or training sessions. Use lifelike scenarios to engage participants in problem-solving exercises.
  2. Train Facilitators: Develop a train-the-facilitator program to equip ethics ambassadors or HR partners with the skills to conduct experiential learning sessions across various locations.
  3. Blend with Traditional Methods: Combine experiential learning with foundational virtual training to ensure comprehensive coverage of compliance topics and allow for documentation.
  4. Leverage Technology: Utilize digital platforms to create interactive simulations and role-playing exercises that can reach a broader audience within the organization.
  5. Measure Impact: Use feedback and assessment tools to evaluate the effectiveness of experiential learning activities and make necessary adjustments to improve outcomes.

Experiential learning represents a transformative approach to compliance and ethics training. Engaging learners in hands-on, real-world problem-solving fosters a more profound understanding and better retention of ethical principles. While it may require additional effort to document and scale, the benefits of creating more meaningful and impactful learning experiences are well worth it. Integrating experiential learning with traditional training methods can help compliance professionals build a more robust and effective ethics training program as we move forward.

By taking these steps, compliance professionals can harness the power of experiential learning to enhance their training programs and foster a culture of ethical behavior within their organizations.

Join us in our next blog post, in which we consider the social aspects of learning for your compliance training regime.

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Making Compliance Training Memorable: Gamechanger 1 – Focus on Strengths

There is not much Tom Fox enjoys more than sitting down with one of the most innovative thinkers in compliance, Carsten Tams, to find out what is on his mind regarding compliance. Tom Fox recently had the opportunity to do so on the topic of making compliance training memorable. Over this short, five-part series, we will introduce the problem and challenges and then provide you with four game-changing strategies you can employ for success in your compliance training.

In this Episode 2, we discuss the concept of focusing on strengths within compliance and ethics training as opposed to traditional deficit-based methods that highlight potential misconduct.

When we instruct people about prohibited behaviors and how the company detects and disciplines misconduct, employees often feel mistrusted and alienated. They tune out. This is deficit-based learning. It approaches the learner as a risk factor or potential delinquent. It aims to constrain unwanted behaviour.

When employees can learn how to effectively shape and safeguard the ethical workplace they aspire to, they feel inspired and tune in. This is strength-based training. It approaches the learner as a valued partner in maintaining integrity.

It assumes that people have capabilities, It aims at eliciting and strengthening the positive ethical faculties already present in most people.

Tom and Carsten urge a shift in perspective so that learners are viewed as valued partners, drawing upon the principles of self-affirmation theory and strength-based approaches found in various sectors like healthcare and education. This approach aims to engage learners by acknowledging and enhancing their capabilities, ethical values, and problem-solving skills, thus fostering a sustainable ethical culture within organizations. Examples of successful applications of this approach, including innovative training methods and programs like UNESCO’s card game and the ‘Giving Voice to Values’ curriculum, are highlighted. The conversation underscores the importance of designing training that not only prevents misconduct but also supports and develops employees’ strengths, thereby enhancing overall company culture.

 Highlights and Key Issues Discussed:

  • The Problem with Deficit-Based Training Approaches
  • The Power of a Strength-Based Approach
  • Real-World Applications and Success Stories
  • Practical Steps Towards Strength-Based Training
  • Building a Sustainable Ethical Culture

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Making Compliance Training Memorable: The Problem

There is not much I enjoy more than sitting down with one of the most innovative thinkers in compliance, Carsten Tams, to find out what is on his mind regarding compliance. I recently had the opportunity to do so on the topic of making compliance training memorable. Over this short, five-part series, we will introduce the problem and challenges and then provide you with four game-changing strategies you can employ for success in your compliance training.

In Episode 1, we provide the lay of the land, explain when ethics training needs some fresh ideas, discuss some of the challenges ethics training is facing and conclude with a summary of the solutions we see.

Tom and Carsten take a deep dive into why traditional E&C training often fails to engage employees and lacks impact on their behavior, despite significant investments. This episode sets up the problem by exploring the historical context of E&C training, the difference between European values-focused and American rules-regulation approaches, and how these methods have evolved.

Their discussion highlights several barriers to effective training, including training being seen as a checkbox exercise, the deficit-focused nature, passive learning methods, isolation, and a lack of playfulness. They also touch on the promising findings that training can be effective when it delivers a positive user experience, emphasizing the need for innovative approaches to improve engagement and behavioral impact. The podcast series aims to explore solutions and strategies for making E&C training more engaging and effective, grounded in four proven principles of learning design. 

Highlights and Issues

  • Introduction to the Series on Ethics and Compliance Training
  • Identifying the Problem with Current Ethics and Compliance Training
  • Exploring the Ineffectiveness of Traditional Training Approaches
  • The Four Engagement Killers in Compliance Training
  • Towards a More Effective Training Approach: Preview of Upcoming Episodes

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Making Ethics & Compliance Training Memorable: Part 1 – What is the Problem?

There is not much I enjoy more than sitting down with one of the innovative thinkers in compliance, Carsten Tams, to find out what is on his mind regarding compliance. I recently had the opportunity to do so in making compliance training memorable. We explored this topic over this short five-part podcast series on the award-winning Innovation in Compliance on the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network.

Over the next five blog posts, I will also explore these topics in the blog format. I will introduce the problem and challenges and then provide you with four proven strategies for success in your compliance training. I deeply dive into why traditional E&C training often fails to engage employees and needs more impact on their behavior despite significant investments. This episode sets up the problem by exploring the historical context of E&C training, the difference between European values-focused and American rules-regulation approaches, and how these methods have evolved. In Part 1, I provide the lay of the land, explain when ethics training needs some fresh ideas, identify some of the challenges ethics training faces, and conclude with a summary of the solutions.

I think this topic still bedevils many compliance professionals: ethics and compliance training. 15 years ago, compliance training was written by lawyers for lawyers. There was a difference in the European approach, which focused more on values, as opposed to the American approach, which focused on rules and regulations. Hopefully, it has evolved past all of those, but there is still a problem with compliance training’s need to engage employees meaningfully.

Tams even further believes this issue of non-engagement by employees with compliance training is “the billion-dollar elephant in the room for ethics and compliance as a practice.” This problem is even made more critical as compliance training is one of the most important functions that ethics and compliance departments perform. “It is also important in terms of the size of the budget they spend on it. The training and compliance training industry is huge. It’s one of the biggest corporate learning sectors, if not the biggest. And yet here we are, and we have very little. After billions of dollars spent and millions of people going through compliance training, there’s very little evidence that it is working in terms of truly creating a better speak-up culture and truly affecting employee behaviors in any positive sense.”  Tams ended by noting that undoubtedly the thing such training does accomplish “is that we’re able to check that box and say, yes, we fulfilled our requirement to train people. However, I think it is lacking in terms of behavioral impact.”

There are some interesting data points on that. A study by Gallup in 2023 showed that three-quarters of compliance training showed little to no benefit. Another finding was that training only tended to benefit when the learner experienced it very positively. When the learner rated the training experience as excellent, the training positively impacted behaviors. This shows that training experience matters.

Compliance professionals must understand better what makes people engage in this type of training. Navex, in an article entitled Top 10 Reasons Why Compliance Training Fails,  asked why training programs often fail. The answer most frequently given was that training is uninspiring, unmemorable, and usually perceived as irrelevant to learners’ work.

There are four engagement killers in compliance training:

  1. Deficit-Focused Training: Compliance training tends to be delinquency-focused. The trainee is cast as someone about to commit a compliance mistake or misconduct.
  2. Passive Learning: Training is often passive and not experiential.
  3. Isolated Learning: Training is an isolated affair with little social interaction.
  4. Lack of Playfulness: Training is rigid and not playful.

One of the themes that will overlay all these podcasts is effectiveness. As far back as the original Evaluation of Corporate Compliance Programs in 2017, the Department of Justice (DOJ) said training should be adequate. How can we get companies to move off the check-the-box mentality so that they can enhance the user experience through some of the strategies I hope to explore throughout this series?

Four Strategies for Effective Training

  1. Strength-Based Training: Focus on employees’ strengths and capabilities. Training should engage people as effective partners in producing ethical outcomes and creating a more ethical organizational culture.
  2. Experiential Learning: Effective learning is experiential. It challenges people to bring their creative and problem-solving capabilities to the learning situations, think creatively, and address meaningful problems.
  3. Social Learning: Collaborative learning has unique benefits. Ethics training succeeds or fails between people. Effective ethics training should encourage communication and collaboration among employees.
  4. Playful Learning: Make ethics learning more playful. Engaging in play makes us much more deeply engaged and open to new information. Playful learning helps retain information and transfer learned information or skills to different scenarios.

In this blog post series, I will detail the several barriers to effective training, including training being seen as a checkbox exercise, the deficit-focused nature, passive learning methods, isolation, and a lack of playfulness. I will also detail the promising findings that training can be effective when it delivers a positive user experience, emphasizing the need for innovative approaches to improve engagement and behavioral impact. This blog post series explores solutions and strategies for making E&C training more engaging and effective, grounded in four proven learning design principles.

Tune in tomorrow, when I will explore strength-based training and how focusing on strengths can transform compliance training and engagement.

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Sunday Book Review: May 5, 2024 The Books on Compliance Training Edition

In the Sunday Book Review, Tom Fox considers books that would interest the compliance professional, the business executive, or anyone who might be curious.

It could be books about business, compliance, history, leadership, current events, or anything else that might interest me.

In today’s edition of the Sunday Book Review, we look at some of the top books on compliance you should read in 2024.

  • Compliance Training: A Complete Guide by Gerardus Blokdyk
  • Building Fully Compliant by Travis Waugh
  • The world Outlook for Blended Compliance Training by Prof. Phillip Parker
  • Creating Great Compliance Training in a Digital World by Kirsten Liston

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Creativity and Compliance – Compliance Training: Completion Rates vs Engagement

Where does creativity fit into compliance?

In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection—they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network.

Ronnie’s company, Learnings and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices that people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives and applies them to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. Today Ronnie and Tom rant about the fallacy of compliance training completion rates.

The importance of engagement over completion rates in compliance training programs is a topic that has been gaining traction in recent times. The traditional focus on completion rates is being challenged, with experts advocating for a shift towards more engaging and interactive training methods. Tom Fox, a seasoned compliance professional, argues that completion rates are not as important as many organizations perceive them to be. He believes that a singular focus on completion rates can lead to lackluster programs, and instead, engagement should be prioritized. Similarly, Ronnie Feldman, an expert in education and communication strategies, emphasizes that while completion rates have a role, they should not be the primary measure of success. Feldman advocates for a greater focus on engagement, arguing that without it, individuals are not truly learning or benefiting from the training.

Both Fox and Feldman’s perspectives are shaped by their extensive experience in the field, leading them to suggest that organizations should minimize the importance of completion rates and instead invest in initiatives that drive meaningful engagement.

 

Key Highlights:

  • Engaging Training for Effective Compliance Education
  • Interactive Training for Effective Compliance Programs
  • Engaging Micro Learning for Compliance Programs
  • Engaging Compliance Training with Fun Activities

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  • Learnings & Entertainments (Website)
  • Compliance Confessions – inspired by “Mean Tweets,” these 90-second commercials address misconceptions and excuses to promote the speak-up culture and the E&C team as positive and helpful.
  • E&C Training Jams – a soulful singer who banters with ethics & compliance, explaining policies, sharing examples, and debunking excuses. 
  • Tales from the Hotline – Real speak up-themed stories about workplace behavior gone wrong.
  • Workplace Tonight Show! – E&C meets SNL Weekend Update, explaining corporate risk topics and why employees should care.
  • 60-Second Communication & Awareness Shorts – A variety of short, customizable, music and multimedia, quick-hitter “commercials” promoting integrity, compliance, speaking up, and the E&C team as helpful advisors and coaches.
  • Custom Live & Digital Programing – Custom creative programming that balances the seriousness of the subject matter with a more engaging delivery. After all, you can’t bore people into learning.

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Creativity and Compliance – Positivity and Compliance

Where does creativity fit into compliance? In more places than you think. Problem-solving, accountability, communication, and connection—they all take creativity. Join Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman on Creativity and Compliance, part of the award-winning Compliance Podcast Network.

Ronnie’s company, Learnings and Entertainment, utilizes the entertainment devices that people use to consume information in their everyday, non-work lives, and applies them to important topics around compliance and ethics. It is not only about being funny. It is about changing the tone of your compliance communications and messaging to make your compliance program, policies, and resources more accessible. Today Ronnie and Tom riff on why it is important to bring positivity to your compliance program and your role as a compliance professional.

Positivity in compliance is a crucial aspect that can significantly transform the perception and effectiveness of compliance programs. It involves shifting the image of compliance professionals from being restrictive to being business enablers who collaborate with other departments to achieve ethical business goals. Two notable figures who have extensively discussed this topic are Tom Fox and Ronnie Feldman.

Tom believes that a positive, solution-oriented approach can change the often negative perception associated with compliance. He emphasizes the importance of presenting compliance as a business enabler and a partner in achieving business goals. Ronnie also advocates for a positive and engaging attitude in compliance work. He underscores the significance of communication and interaction, suggesting that a positive tone from leadership can improve the overall compliance program. Both Fox and Feldman’s perspectives are shaped by their extensive experience in the field, and they both agree that integrating positivity into all aspects of compliance can foster a more collaborative and respectful relationship with employees.

Key Highlights:

  • Shifting Compliance Narrative Through Positivity
  • Enhancing Communication Through Humor and Positivity
  • Fostering Positive Compliance Culture Through Leadership
  • Don’t be a Debbie Downer

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Podcasting for Compliance Training and Corporate Culture

If there is one truism from the practice of law that translates to the practice of compliance, it is that you are only limited by your own imagination. This holds true in the 360-degree realm of communication in compliance, as communications obviously comes in many forms. Many compliance practitioners will well remember the 2012 Morgan Stanley declination. In this first declination made public, the Department of Justice recognized Morgan Stanley for emailing out 35 compliance reminders to Garth Peterson over seven years. Think about the power of 360-degrees of communications in the context of compliance reminders. Now imagine the power of short ethics and compliance video training clips going out over the same period of time and the effect it would have both on your employees and the regulators.

Podcast Storytelling

Why not tell the story of compliance through a podcast? I call it podcast storytelling and it can be a powerful tool. Each podcast series is 5-part series and constitutes one story arc. The podcasts are about 10–15 minutes in length. The podcast storytelling series can be a variety of interviews led by a noted podcast host such as the Voice of Compliance, yourself as the CCO, or by anyone from your organization. It can be an interview with one or more people, or it can be a solo podcast.

While there would be a fully integrated story line, each podcast and accompanying text is stand-alone compliance training and communications that could be used by anyone at your organization. The podcasts could be pushed out internally as well as via your organization’s social media channels. There is a full panoply of podcast sites available, such as iTunes, Spotify, IHeartRadio, Google Pods, and Amazon. From each podcast, you can create multiple short audio clips or other forms of social media sharing materials with key quotes and lessons learned that can be created as podcast cover art.

A series such as this allows your organization not only to tell a story more effectively but also to reach a much larger audience than in any other format—live, audio-video or in-person. Yet there is another reason why you should consider this type of approach for compliance training and communications. It will provide you with the equivalent of market research and feedback. The numbers of listeners and downloads will give you a reliable source of data that you can use in other communications and trainings.

Compliance Department Branded Podcasts

Want another option? How about a fully-produced, branded podcast series for your internal compliance function. It could be two 25–30-minute episodes per month, with the guest selected by your compliance team. This format allows your corporate compliance function to tell the story of its greatest asset, its people, through interviews. Cannot get out of the country to travel? Still working remotely? Your branded podcasts give you a way to reach your employees as we continue to struggle through the Covid-19 variants. You can use the branded podcast to tell the story of compliance successes in your organization. You can include other departments to share their successes, too. As with the podcast storytelling series, it would be done in a collaborative manner working with your communications team.

Compliance News of the Day

Want to make some short and snappy compliance communications? How about “Compliance News of the Day”? Have a daily curated news show of 3–4 compliance stories with a short summary of each story and how they relate to a compliance perspective to your organization. Make it fun so your employees want to check in daily. When the DOJ comes knocking and asks how often you send out compliance communications, you can point to your Compliance News of the Day as a great starting point.

As a compliance practitioner, you should strive to bring more storytelling into your compliance messaging, training, and communications. If you put the employee in the shoes of the person they’re watching, they will remember it, because they will see how it applies to their lives. Such training and communication experiences will last much longer than if you drone over a written policy or show a PowerPoint. Marc Havener has called this “expanding your classroom.” Ronnie Feldman calls this bringing memorable storytelling to your compliance communications and training.

 Using Podcasts to Improve Corporate Culture

One of the biggest benefits of podcasting is that it allows a compliance function to connect with their audience on a more personal level. Unlike traditional forms of advertising, which often come across as impersonal and sales-driven, podcasts enable businesses to build a loyal following by offering valuable and engaging content. This can include interviews with industry experts, behind-the-scenes glimpses of the business, and informative discussions on relevant topics.

Now take these same concepts of audience engagement and apply them internally to an organization. What do you potentially have? A mechanism to engage your employees, to engender trust and improve your overall corporate culture. Do you think this is a crazy way to improve culture? Think again about all the advantages podcasting has in place already.

A major US consumer product company started a podcast and had corporate executives on it. Who were the biggest fans of the podcast? It turned out it was the company employees, many of whom had never met their corporate executives. This allowed the executives to be humanized in a way no number of town hall meetings or other similar corporate events could ever achieve.

Since you are only limited by your imagination in compliance, why not use some of that imagination to be creative in your compliance training and communications.