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Archana Shastri-Isn’t She Lovely

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

Mary met Archana Shastri on her first day of work as Legal and Compliance Counsel at Tata Communications in Singapore in 2010.  The two were peers and became fast friends, bonding quickly as two of the quieter colleagues and, in fact, the only two Compliance colleagues in the Singapore headquarters.

 Archana, though now a Singaporean citizen, originally hails from India, and Mary asked Archana about some of the country’s cultural characteristics that might be of interest to Compliance Officers.  Archana also generally shares an update on the Asia Pacific region and comments on levels of activity from some of the local Compliance regulators and authorities.

 Mary asked Archana what she would like European and US-headquartered companies to know about the Asia Pacific region – Mary wholeheartedly stands behind Archana’s points on this one!

 Archana also details what it was like to study for her Master’s Degree in Anti-Corruption studies, a course based in Vienna.

 Archana wraps up the episode with some general commentary on the state and development of data privacy law in the Asia Pacific region.

 Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary’s speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it’s going to be a great time.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to.  If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast’s story.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

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Wendy Badger-Compliance from Soup to Nuts

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

Mary and Lisa end the second GWIC semester with Wendy Badger. Wendy is Global Compliance Counsel at Tennant Company, where she oversees their global ethics and compliance program. She has worked in-house and in law firms, taking her experiences from one space and applying them to others. She is also an author, regular speaker, friend, and mentor to many – and one of the “OG GWICS” who has made this community grow.

Lisa and Wendy discuss a number of different topics, starting with remote investigations, which is top of mind for many of us these days. They talk about pitfalls, lessons learned, and some practical tips, including one from Wendy about how she makes interviewees more comfortable. They also talk about the impact of remote work on networking over the past few years, focusing on women and how that may change as the world continues to open up.

Wendy also shares some of her favorite advice and how she has made some of that advice her own. She also told Lisa what has now become one of the best stories about public speaking on the podcast!

GWIC is going on vacation for the next few weeks but will be back on July 20. We hope everyone remembers to take some time off – whether off social media, off from work, or just time for yourself.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to. If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

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Jill Atstupenas-Hadley Maeve


Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.
Trigger warning: This episode contains a baby loss story and theme.  The Great Women in Compliance Podcast often covers instances of “doing the right thing”.  We’ve previously done it regarding respect and dignity in the hiring process and today’s episode focuses on empathy and compassion by employers when employees suffer a tragedy.  Jill Atstupenas shares her and her husband’s story of losing their dearly desired baby girl, Hadley Maeve and provides some thoughtful considerations for how managers and company staff more broadly can respond in a way that shows support for the colleague and lets them know they are a valued member of staff.  Her ideas are practical, tangible and actionable items that will guide managers who truly care about their staff.  The title of today’s episode is our tribute to Hadley Maeve.
Jill also discusses how peers and other colleagues can help a colleague going through a difficult time to navigate it so that even if you’re not a manager, you can walk the walk of being a beacon of integrity in an organization.
We end the episode with Jill discussing some of the differences for Compliance Officers transitioning from a well-established large company, to a smaller one with less of a history.
The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).
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Alison Taylor-Everything She Says is Gold

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

Alison Taylor is one of Mary’s favorite thought leaders. After last appearing on the show in 2020 with Lisa, we invited Alison back to hear about her latest project, a book you’ll hear about and her latest musings on ESG including challenges for companies and what Alison is predicting about the future of ESG – you won’t want to miss it!

We ask Alison who she would give an ethical award to up until this point in 2022 and we think you’ll be in agreement with her thoughts on this leader who has exemplified tone from the top.

 The GWIC team sends their thanks for all of the well wishes received for their milestone 150th episode last week.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

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Nordic Business Ethics Initiative – Niina Ratsula and Anna Romberg


Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.
Not too dissimilar from Lisa and Mary, Niina and Anna partner on a project to further knowledge to others in the Ethics and Compliance community.  Their Nordic Business Ethics Initiative is a wonderful contribution to practitioners.  We invite you to hear the story about how they got started and what they provide to others in the field.
Niina and Anna discuss some of the recent findings in their benchmarking survey with Mary sharing some commentary on a surprising finding and how global practitioners might use this data to target their speak up campaigns accordingly.
They also share their advice for anyone else thinking about launching a not for profit idea to serve the Compliance community and Mary wraps up the interview with some advice regarding interpreting signals of anger and what they mean vis-a-vis guilt in investigations.
Each of the GWIC team; Lisa, Tom and Mary, is speaking at Compliance Week in DC 16-18 May.  If you enjoy our thought leadership, join our panel sessions to hear more and look out for us in the networking breaks to say hello!
The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).
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Kristy Grant-Hart – Adult Learning Theory and Compliance Training

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

Kristy Grant-Hart was one of the Great Women in Compliance podcast’s inaugural guests, whose episode launched on 6 December 2018. She agreed to be on the show before we had a track record and reputation – we’re grateful to her for supporting us right from the start.

We invited Kristy, one of the Compliance community’s most respected voices, to return to the show to share with us how adult learning theory can best be applied to your Compliance training to make it more effective. Listen in to get a baseline understanding of adult learning theory and Kristy’s tips for enhancing your training program. We also hear about how Compliance Competitor is going and what the ever moving and shaking Kristy is up to next.

Are you attending Compliance Week’s annual conference? The GWIC team of Lisa, Tom and Mary will all be speaking and look forward to saying hello to listeners of Compliance Podcast Network listeners in DC.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

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Nicole Diaz-Kindness and Compliance

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

In 2021, Snap Inc. released a new code of conduct with a theme of kindness evangelism. Hear Nicole Diaz, Global Head of Integrity & Compliance Legal talk about how the team worked on putting it together and why they considered it important to have a focus on kindness in a company code of conduct.

Nicole also shares some of the compliance considerations when working in a social media/tech company, as well as what’s on the agenda for the Snap Compliance program in 2022. We hear about her commitment to DEI also and how this has impacted Nicole’s approach to ethics and compliance.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to. If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it. You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast. Corporate Compliance Insights is a much appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

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Bonus Episode – Edye Edens

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

Welcome to the Spring Season for the Great Women in Compliance Podcast. Today, we have a first on the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, our first guest host. Our producer, Tom Fox recently interviewed Edye Edens, a Consultant in Human Subject Research Compliance for First Class Solutions, Inc. Tom contacted us and said the interview was more a #GWIC style podcast than his standard interview and asked if he could post it on the Great Women in Compliance Podcast and we said yes.

Tom and Edye discuss her background growing up in a small town in Oklahoma and then explore her academic and professional background at length and how each role has influenced her career in compliance. Edye has worked for a large academic institution in Indiana and has been involved in numerous human rights-focused, non-governmental organizations both in the U.S. and abroad while also living overseas.

Edye now works in the area of human subject research compliance and details the challenges unique to that profession. They discuss working both in-house in compliance and as an outside consultant and the benefits and encounters each perspective brings to the compliance profession.

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Alison Hinds-Pearl on Why the Only Constant is Change

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

Today is the day after International Women’s Day, and we are so pleased to welcome Alison Hinds-Pearl.  Alison is the Chief Compliance Officer and Assistant General Counsel at Revlon and previously had senior roles at MasterCard and Bayer.   Her career is remarkable in many ways, particularly as she has been in three very different industries, finance, pharma and now beauty and self-care products.

Alison talks about the differences and similarities in these different industries, particularly as finance and pharma are so heavily regulated.  Alison also started at Revlon during the pandemic and discusses her experience.

Lisa and Alison discuss the importance of diversity in our organizations, and Alison shares some insight from her experience, as a woman and as a woman of color, including an early experience at the Bronx District Attorney’s Office.  This is a great discussion not only for Women’s History Month, but to conclude the winter session of #GWIC.

Great Women in Compliance will be back on March 30 with a special bonus episode hosted by Tom Fox.  Lisa and Mary want to say thank you to the #GWIC community, especially during Women’s History Month.

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Debra Sabitini Hennelly, Part 2 series: Burnout, ESG and Ethical Leadership

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

Following on from our Part 1 from last week, we invite Debbie Sabatini Hennelly back for the second part of series where we discuss how a book became a deliverable that helped Debbie work through burnout which ties in nicely with the burnout discussion commenced in the first episode.  As someone who was previously an environmental lawyer, Debbie is one of the few people who is legitimately an ESG expert and shares with us some thoughts about how companies ought to approach ESG, as well as giving her view on whether or not Compliance should own ESG.  We also ask for Debbie’s advice about being a great leader and how to manage upwards when you have a difficult boss.

 The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance related offerings to listen in to.  If you are enjoying this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other likeminded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the story of the podcast.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book; “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.