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Compliance Into the Weeds

Compliance into the Weeds: Incentives in Compliance: Structuring Effective Compensation Plans

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Seeking insightful perspectives on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this episode, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly discuss the intricacies of integrating incentives into corporate compliance programs.

Matt shares insights from a recent webinar and blog posts, discussing how companies can encourage ethical behavior through executive compensation plans, performance bonuses, and other incentive schemes. The conversation explores the Justice Department’s guidelines on executive compensation, the intricacies of designing these programs to align with industry-specific risks, and the implications for various levels of management. They also examine the challenges of establishing meaningful compliance metrics and striking a balance between compliance incentives and overall business objectives across multiple sectors.

Key highlights:

  • The Role of Incentives in Compliance Programs
  • Structuring Executive Compensation for Compliance
  • Challenges and Nuances in Incentive Programs
  • Incentives for Different Business Models
  • Compensation Types and Ethical Behavior

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A multi-award-winning podcast, Compliance into the Weeds was most recently honored as one of the Top 25 Regulatory Compliance Podcasts, a Top 10 Business Law Podcast, and a Top 12 Risk Management Podcast. Compliance into the Weeds has been honored with a Davey, Communicator, and W3 Award, all for excellence in podcasting.

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Sunday Book Review

Sunday Book Review: September 28, 2025, The Books on Compensation and Incentives for September Edition

In the Sunday Book Review, Tom Fox considers books that would interest compliance professionals, business executives, or anyone curious about the subject. It could be books about business, compliance, history, leadership, current events, or any other topic that might interest Tom. Today, Tom reviews four top books on compensation and incentives inside a corporation.

  • The Compensation Handbook, Sixth Edition by Lance A. Berger and Dorothy Berger
  • The WorldatWork Handbook of Total Rewards by WorldatWork
  • Pay Matters: The Art and Science of Employee Compensation by David Weaver
  • The Complete Guide to Sales Force Incentive Compensation by  Andris Zoltners, Prabhakant Sinha, and Sally Lorimer

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The Sunday Book Review was recently honored as one of the world’s Top 100 Book Podcasts.

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Great Women in Compliance

Great Women in Compliance: GWIC X EC Q2 2025 – Exploring Compliance Innovations

We’re back with another GWIC x EC crossover episode. Today, we have the quartet of Great Women in Compliance of Kristy Grant-Hart, Karen Moore, Lisa Fine, and Hemma Lomax.

The GWIC quartet discusses various intriguing topics related to compliance. Lisa Fine kicks off the conversation by discussing the new ‘failure to prevent fraud’ guidance in the UK, which places greater responsibility on companies to avoid engaging in fraud. The group delves into the implications of this law and its extraterritorial elements. Hemma Lomax shifts the conversation to changes in the False Claims Act in the US, highlighting its expanded use beyond fraudulent billing to areas like cybersecurity and diversity obligations. Karen Moore introduces the innovative ‘Karma’ rewards system by Revolut Bank in the UK, which incentivizes compliance behaviors through team performance multipliers. Kristy Grant-Hart wraps up with a fascinating discussion on AI, touching on AI’s potential as a whistleblower and whether AI could attain employment rights if it becomes sentient. They conclude by sharing their rants and raves, offering insights on topics ranging from the importance of local theaters to women’s leadership in compliance.

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All Things Investigations

All Things Investigations – Navigating New DOJ Directives: Declinations, Cooperation, and Whistleblower Programs with Mike DeBernardis and Katherine Taylor

Welcome to the Hughes Hubbard Anti-Corruption & Internal Investigations Practice Group’s podcast, All Things Investigation. In this podcast, host Tom Fox is joined by HHR lawyers Mike DeBernardis and Katherine Taylor about the recent speech by Matthew R. Galeotti, Head of the Criminal Division at the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ);  his attendant Memo entitled Focus, Fairness, and Efficiency in the Fight Against White-Collar Crime; and the updates to the Corporate Enforcement and Voluntary Self-Disclosure Policy; and finally the new Memo on Monitors and Monitorships.

Key highlights:

  • Is meaningful cooperation credit finally here?
  • Did we move from a presumption of a declination to something stronger or at least more tangible?
  • Is the Kenneth Polite “double secret—we know it when we see it” cooperation requirement now a thing of the past, or at least defined?
  • Enhancements to the Whistleblower Program—Initial Thoughts.
  • Monitors—dead and gone or something else?
  • What, if anything, does this change about the role of corporate compliance today?

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31 Days to More Effective Compliance Programs

31 Days to a More Effective Compliance Program: Day 2-2024 ECCP on Incentives, Consequences, and Clawbacks

Welcome to a special podcast series on the Compliance Podcast Network, 31 Days to a More Effective Compliance Program. Over these 31 days series in January 2025, I will post a key part a best practices compliance program each day. By the end of January, you will have enough information to create, design or enhancement a compliance program. Each podcast will be short, at 6-8 minutes with three key takeaways that you can implement at little or no cost to help update your compliance program. I hope you will plan to join each day in January for this exploration of best practices in compliance.

In this episode, we discuss how the Department of Justice (DOJ) has emphasized the importance of designing and implementing compliance-based compensation schemes. Financial incentives, such as deferred or escrowed compensation tied to conduct, play a critical role in fostering a culture of compliance. The episode also explores the necessary continuum of assessment, analysis, implementation, and monitoring that companies must follow for effective compliance incentive programs. Additionally, Tom covers the DOJ’s rigorous approach to consequence management, particularly concerning clawback provisions in executive contracts. The episode guides compliance professionals on the essential steps and analyses required to adhere to the enhanced DOJ expectations. Key takeaways include the importance of financial incentive analysis and the distinct yet related roles of clawbacks and consequence management within a compliance program.

Key Highlights

  • Starting with Incentives and Consequences
  • Incentive Program Breakdown
  • Consequence Management Deep Dive

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Greetings and Felicitations

Compliance Lessons from Venice – Episode 2, The Arsenale and Creating a Culture of Compliance

Welcome to a short podcast series on doing compliance with a Venetian twist. This week, we will examine three areas where Venice’s time-honored methods inform modern compliance practices. Over the next 3 episodes, we will consider going back to basics in your compliance regime, the use of incentives and consequences to drive a culture of compliance, and how the Lion’s Mouth informs your modern-day whistleblower program. In episode 2, we see how Venice used financial and non-financial incentives and consequence management to create a culture of compliance in Venice’s largest business operation, Arsenale.

The Arsenale district in Venice was known for its shipbuilding prowess from the 1200s to the 1400s. By examining how Venice managed its critical shipbuilding workforce through both incentives and discipline, Tom draws valuable parallels to modern corporate compliance programs. He highlights that Venice implemented job security and compensatory incentives to promote loyalty while enforcing strict non-compete clauses and severe punishments for leaking state secrets. Tom emphasizes the importance of balancing positive incentives with clear disciplinary actions, aligning this historical example with contemporary guidance from the DOJ and SEC. These principles support recognizing compliance efforts through promotions, bonuses, and acknowledgments, which can foster ethical behavior and improve overall organizational integrity.

Key highlights:

  • Arsenale and Incentivizing Compliance
  • Historical Context and Compliance Insights
  • Punishments and Incentives in Venice
  • Modern Compliance Practices

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Blog

Key Compliance Speeches from 2023-Kenneth Polite on Incentives and Consequence Management

Assistant Attorney General Kenneth A. Polite, Jr. began his speech with an interesting aside. It is about the clear tie between poverty and corruption. This is why it is important to prosecute corrupt government officials because their actions keep the people of in such dire economic straits. He stated, “Just as crime recognizes no borders, our efforts to combat it must be equally boundless. We need our partners – both domestic and international – to solve community problems. That is where the Criminal Division thrives.” In the Diaz case there was international cooperation at various levels. Think about that for a moment, the US and Venezuelan governments cooperating on anything, yet they apparently did cooperate on this matter. Polite added that several recent FCPA corporate enforcement matters, “Glencore, ABB, Danske, and Stericycle, among many others, underscore the successes that we’ve shared with our colleagues abroad.”

To be truly effective community problem-solvers, prosecutors must broaden our sense of community by literally ‘spanning the globe’ to fight crime, including bribery and corruption. Polite stated, “Crime does not limit itself by country or region. Corruption’s corrosive effects are global, with the world’s poor often bearing the brunt. Bribery threatens our collective security by undermining the rule of law and providing a breeding ground for other crime and authoritarian rule.”

Clawbacks

The clawback policy was developed to promote “innovative approaches to compensation” which would “shift the burden of corporate malfeasance away from uninvolved shareholders onto those more directly responsible.” She believes “Companies should ensure that executives and employees are personally invested in promoting compliance” as “nothing grabs attention or demands personal investment like having skin in the game, through direct and tangible financial incentives.” This led the Criminal Division to “develop guidance, guidance on how to reward corporations with compliance-promoting compensation programs.”

The clawback Initiative has two parts. “First, every corporate resolution involving the Criminal Division will now include a requirement that the resolving company develop compliance-promoting criteria within its compensation and bonus system. Second is the creation of a 3-year pilot program under which the “Criminal Division will provide fine reductions to companies who seek to claw back compensation from corporate wrongdoers.”

Finally, the DOJ has added some real benefits for companies which follow these prescripts. First is that any company which resolves a FCPA violation will “pay the applicable fine, minus a reserved credit equaling the amount of compensation the company is attempting to claw back from culpable executives and employees.” Additionally, “If the company succeeds and recoups compensation from a responsible employee, the company gets to keep that clawback money — and also doesn’t have to pay the amount it recovered.” Finally, if the company’s efforts at clawbacks are not successful or completed during the pendency of the investigation up to the settlement “the pilot program will also ensure that those who pursue clawbacks in good faith but are unsuccessful are still eligible to receive a fine reduction.” All of these efforts are designed to “shift the burden of corporate wrongdoing away from shareholders, who frequently play no role in the misconduct, onto those directly responsible.” This new emphasis is clearly designed to encourage companies who do not already factor compliance into compensation to retool their programs and get ahead of the curve.

Polite provided more detail on the new clawback initiative. He said, “As to clawbacks: for companies that fully cooperate with our investigation and timely and appropriately remediate the misconduct, they may receive an additional fine reduction if the company has implemented a program to recoup compensation and uses that program. We expect companies that use these programs to address not only employees who engaged in wrongdoing in connection with the conduct under investigation, but also those who had supervisory authority over the employees or business area engaged in the misconduct, and knew of, or were willfully blind to, the misconduct.” (emphasis mine)

Expanding on the benefits for an organization, he stated, “If the company meets these factors and – in good faith – has initiated the process to recover such compensation at the time of resolution, our prosecutors will accord an additional fine reduction equal to the amount of any compensation that is recouped within the resolution term.” Finally, “if a company’s good faith effort is unsuccessful by the time the resolution term ends, our prosecutors will have discretion to accord a fine reduction of up to 25% of the amount of compensation that has been sought.”

Polite did leave room for companies to weigh a variety of factors in bringing a clawback claim. He noted, “We are not trying to incentivize waste. To the contrary, companies should make an assessment about the potential cost to shareholders and prospect of success of clawback litigation, given any applicable laws, and weigh it against the value of recoupment – and proceed in accordance with their stated corporate policies on executive compensation. This Pilot Program will be in effect for three years, allowing us to gather data and assess its effectiveness and also aid other components and offices in considering this important issue.”

Any litigation is always fraught with unknowns, both known and unknown. Given the imbroglio involving the DOJ and Cognizant Technologies Solutions over the DOJ prosecution of former executives, the road to any successful clawback will be fraught with peril. Additionally, it is not clear how far companies or the DOJ will push for clawbacks from “those who had supervisory authority over the employees or business area engaged in the misconduct.” If scope creep comes in it could be a wide group.

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31 Days to More Effective Compliance Programs

31 Days to a More Effective Compliance Program: Day 2 – 2023 Evaluation of Compliance Programs: Incentives and Consequences

The 2023 ECCP had significant changes regarding compliance-based incentives, both financial and non-financial; consequence management; messaging apps; and ancillary matters.

I.    Incentives

This section begins with a new introduction that makes clear the seriousness in which the DOJ views incentives, both financial and other types of incentives. The ECCP states, “The design and implementation of compensation schemes play an important role in fostering a compliance culture.”

The ECCP also added a new section on financial incentives, which directs prosecutors to specifically evaluate how a company designs and applies financial incentives. These four questions basically breakdown into the following continuum: (1) Assessment, (2) Analysis, (3) Implementation; and (4) Monitoring.

II.   Consequence Management

The DOJ has been talking about clawbacks for some time now. However, the revised language of the ECCP puts more rigor into what the DOJ is now mandating.

 a.   Clawbacks

The DOJ has made it clear that companies need to seek to recover amounts paid out to executives that were illegally received as corporate compensation. This could include both salary, stock options, similar payments, or discretionary bonuses. All of this means every compliance program will need to analyze each of these components as set out.

b.    Consequence Management

The DOJ also mandated that compliance programs take a deeper dive into their entire financial incentive program—both incentives and disincentives. While there is some overlap with the clawback language, there is quite a bit of newness in these areas. The DOJ’s hotline and speak-up reports directly relate to a company’s culture of compliance.

Three key takeaways:

1. The 2023 ECCP brought significant changes to both financial incentives and negative consequences as well.

2. The new financial incentive analysis is: (1) Assessment; (2) Analysis, (3) Implementation; and (4) Monitoring.

3. Clawbacks and Consequence Management are related but separate parts of a best practices compliance program.

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Blog

Compliance Lessons from Venice: Incentives, Consequences and Compliance

This week I am running a three-part blog post series and three-part podcast series on compliance lessons from one of the most beautiful cities on earth, Venice. We will consider how construction in Venice can inform your compliance program, how the Venice ship building and repair business located in the Arsenale inform both corporate culture and your compliance program and how Venice created the first modern day hotline reporting system. In this second blog post and accompanying podcast we look at the Venetian ship building and ship repair industry centered in the Arsenale District and how they created a culture of compliance with the workers and implemented strategies which informed modern day compliance programs.

The Arsenale district in Venice serves as a historical example of the implementation of a corporate culture and implementation of a compliance program. This district was a significant maritime hub from the mid-1200s to the mid-1400s, known for its innovative shipbuilding techniques, which were considered state secrets. To protect this valuable intellectual property, the Venetian Fathers established a series of incentives and punishments that can inform best practices in compliance programs today.

One of the key takeaways from the Arsenale district is the importance of balancing incentives and discipline in a compliance program. This concept is emphasized by the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC). Companies can learn from this historical example by implementing clear procedures and consequences for violations, publicizing disciplinary actions as a deterrent, and offering positive incentives to encourage adherence to ethical business practices.

On the consequence side, the Venetian Fathers forbade skilled workers from leaving the city to work in neighboring or rival cities, establishing the first non-compete agreement. Additionally, those caught sharing state secrets faced summary execution after excruciating torture. While these specific punishment techniques may not be applicable in modern corporate America, they highlight the need for severe consequences for violations.

In terms of incentives, the Arsenale district focused on job security. Layoffs were unheard of, and if someone lost their job due to injury or mishap, they received enough compensation to sustain themselves in the city. Furthermore, the company provided funeral expenses and assistance to the family of a deceased worker, ensuring their well-being.

The dual focus on keeping shipbuilding secrets within the city and incentivizing loyalty among workers aligns with the DOJ and SEC’s emphasis on incorporating both incentives and discipline into compliance programs. According to the guidance provided by these regulatory bodies, companies should have clearly defined procedures that are applied reliably and promptly, with punishments commensurate with the violation. Publicizing disciplinary actions internally, where appropriate, can serve as a deterrent and demonstrate the consequences of unethical actions.

However, the guidance also highlights the importance of positive incentives. The DOJ and SEC recognize that rewards for following a company’s internal code of conduct and conducting business ethically can drive compliant behavior. These incentives can take various forms, such as personal evaluations, promotions, rewards for improving compliance programs, and recognition for ethical behavior.

Companies can integrate incentives into their DNA through the hiring and promotion process. Senior management hires and promotions should include a compliance component, ensuring that individuals who prioritize compliance are recognized and rewarded. By making compliance evaluations a part of every employee’s overall evaluation, companies can further incentivize compliance.

The Arsenale district serves as a valuable historical example of the tradeoffs involved in balancing incentives and discipline in a compliance program. While severe punishments were imposed to protect state secrets, the district also prioritized job security and support for workers and their families. This approach highlights the importance of considering the impact on employees when making decisions about compliance program implementation.

In conclusion, the Arsenale district in Venice provides valuable insights into the implementation of a compliance program. By balancing incentives and discipline, companies can establish clear procedures and punishments for violations, publicize disciplinary actions as a deterrent, and offer positive incentives to drive compliant behavior. The historical example of the arsenal district emphasizes the importance of considering the impact on employees when making decisions about compliance program implementation.

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Daily Compliance News

Daily Compliance News: August 28, 2023 – The Spanish Kiss Edition

Welcome to the Daily Compliance News. Each day, Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance brings to you compliance-related stories to start your day. Sit back, enjoy a cup of morning coffee, and listen in to the Daily Compliance News. All, from the Compliance Podcast Network. Each day we consider four stories from the business world, compliance, ethics, risk management, leadership, or general interest for the compliance professional.

  • 3M settles FCPA action? (WSJ)
  • Imprisoned Kazakh tycoon may be released. (RFE/RL)
  • Do you really need incentives to operate safely? (Reuters)
  • FIFA suspends head of Spanish football. (FT)