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2 Gurus Talk Compliance

2 Gurus Talk Compliance – Episode 50 – The Tariffs Tariffs Tariffs Edition

What happens when two top compliance commentators get together? They talk compliance, of course. Join Tom Fox and Kristy Grant-Hart in 2 Gurus Talk Compliance as they discuss the latest compliance issues in this week’s episode!

Stories this week include:

  • Trump is redefining what corruption is. (Axios)
  • The pain of doing business with the Trump Administration. (FT)
  • The fired DOJ lawyer accused the current DOJ leadership of corruption. (AP)
  • 8 arrested in Huawei corruption probe. (Bloomberg)
  • Whistleblowers awarded $6.7 million against Texas AG. (Houston Chronicle)
  • New Tariffs Promise Increased False Claims Act Scrutiny on Importers and Other Companies in the Import Chain (Gibson Dunn)
  • Justice Department Scales Back Crypto Enforcement (WSJ)
  • DOJ Monitorship Policy Disappears (Radical Compliance)
  • Navigate Career Chaos: 5 Steps to Find Clarity Now (Psychology Today)
  • Woman arrested after accidentally texting sheriff’s department instead of drug dealer (KKTV)

 

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Compliance Into the Weeds

Compliance into the Weeds: The Uncertain Future of Compliance Monitors under the Trump Administration

The award-winning Compliance into the Weeds is the only weekly podcast that takes a deep dive into a compliance-related topic, literally going into the weeds to explore a subject more fully. Are you looking for some hard-hitting insights on compliance? Look no further than Compliance into the Weeds! In this Compliance into the Weeds episode, Tom Fox and Matt Kelly take a deep dive into the future role of compliance monitors in the corporate world under the Trump administration.

Despite the potential for changes, federal prosecutors are expected to continue using compliance monitors as a critical tool. However, the criteria for assigning these monitors may become more limited. The episode critically examines the trustworthiness of statements from the Trump administration and its Justice Department, emphasizing the uncertainty facing corporations and compliance professionals moving forward.

Key highlights:

  • Trump Administration’s Stance on Monitors
  • Criteria for Assigning Monitors
  • Skepticism Towards Statements

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10 For 10

10 For 10: Top Compliance Stories For the Week Ending, April 12, 2025

Welcome to 10 For 10, the podcast that brings you the week’s Top 10 compliance stories in one podcast each week. Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you the compliance professional and the compliance stories you need to know to end your busy week. Sit back, and in 10 minutes, hear about the stories every compliance professional should know from the prior week. Every Saturday, 10 For 10 highlights the most important news, insights, and analysis for the compliance professional, all curated by the Voice of Compliance, Tom Fox. Get your weekly filling of compliance stories with 10 for 10, a podcast produced by the Compliance Podcast Network.

  • China has a trade-war arsenal ready. (WSJ)
  • Was tariff whiplash ‘open corruption’?(TNR)
  • How Intel complies with steel and aluminum tariffs. (Tom’s Hardware)
  • DOJ wipes out crypto enforcement. (WSJ)
  • HBO does on dark money corruption in Ohio. (Columbus Dispatch)
  • Meta whistleblower says the company aided China in the AI race. (Bloomberg)
  • Whistleblowers awarded $6.7 against Texas AG. (Houston Chronicle)
  • Clothes rental company CaaStle mired in allegations of fraud. (Forbes)
  • Head of Cayman Islands AML efforts found dead in burning car. (Cayman Compass)
  • 8 arrested in Huawei corruption probe. (Bloomberg)

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Daily Compliance News

Daily Compliance News: April 9, 2025, The Corruption at the DOJ Edition

Welcome to the Daily Compliance News. Each day, Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you compliance-related stories to start your day. Sit back, enjoy a cup of morning coffee, and listen to the Daily Compliance News—all from the Compliance Podcast Network. Each day, we consider four stories from the business world: compliance, ethics, risk management, leadership, or general interest for the compliance professional.

Top stories include:

  • Wall Street bursts over the stupidity of Trump tariffs. (NYT)
  • The fired DOJ lawyer accused the current DOJ leadership of corruption. (AP)
  • Paul Atkins for SEC chair advances in Senate. (Reuters)
  • Hackers have spied on OCC for over a year, undetected. (Bloomberg)
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Daily Compliance News

Daily Compliance News: April 8, 2025, The End of Monitors Edition

Welcome to the Daily Compliance News. Each day, Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you compliance-related stories to start your day. Sit back, enjoy a cup of morning coffee, and listen to the Daily Compliance News—all from the Compliance Podcast Network. Each day, we consider four stories from the business world: compliance, ethics, risk management, leadership, or general interest for the compliance professional.

Top stories include:

  • Huawei fires two staffers in response to corruption allegations. (Politico)
  • Two CBP agents were charged with bribery. (AP)
  • Boeing settles crash victim’s claims. (Reuters)
  • End of monitors? (at least under Trump). (Bloomberg)
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10 For 10

10 For 10: Top Compliance Stories For the Week Ending April 5, 2025

Welcome to 10 For 10, the podcast that brings you the week’s Top 10 compliance stories in one podcast each week. Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you the compliance professional and the compliance stories you need to know to end your busy week. Sit back, and in 10 minutes, hear the stories every compliance professional should know from the prior week. Every Saturday, 10 for 10 highlights the most important news, insights, and analysis for the compliance professional, all curated by the Voice of Compliance, Tom Fox. Get your weekly filling of compliance stories with 10 for 10, a podcast produced by the Compliance Podcast Network.

  • Big shakeup in SEC enforcement coming. (Reuters)
  • Heathrow Airport warned about fire and electric loss before the event. (BBC)
  • Deloitte seeks to avoid liability in Scana’s collapse. (FT)
  • Ben & Jerry’s Ice Cream says, “Set Us Free”. (WSJ)
  • End of SEC FCPA bribery unit. (Reuters)
  • Ex-Shell boss tasked with cleaning up Nigerian National Petroleum Company (NNPC).  (BBC)
  • The judge dismisses Adams’s case with prejudice. (NYT)
  • DOJ moves to dismiss FCPA trial of former Cognizant execs. (Law360) sub req’d
  • What is the true cost of corruption-lost lives? (WSJ)
  • How Deutsche hid problems from regulators. (WSJ)

You can check out the Daily Compliance News for four curated compliance and ethics-related stories each day here.

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Stepping Up and Stepping Forward: The Future of Compliance in an Age of AI and Deregulation

The world of compliance took a surprising turn this February with the Executive Order issued by the President suspending FCPA investigation and enforcement. This was followed in short order by the dismissal, after six years of prosecution, of the two ex-Cognizant Technology executives charged with paying or authorizing the payment of bribes in that case. It now appears that both the Department of Justice (DOJ) and Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) FCPA units will be eviscerated and even shut down by the Administration. These significant legal rollbacks have ignited a series of conversations about the very essence and future of the compliance profession. As compliance professionals, many of us are left pondering, where exactly does compliance go from here?

I recently discussed this topic on the Compliance into the Weeds podcast with Matt Kelly, reflecting on his insights from a compliance event held in Boston he wrote about in a blog post in Radical Compliance. Matt highlighted a prevalent unease among compliance officers, underpinned by two primary concerns: the potential redundancy of compliance roles due to relaxed regulatory scrutiny and the impact of advancing technology, particularly AI, on compliance functions.

First, tackle the issue of regulatory rollback. The Trump administration has shown a clear inclination toward scaling back certain regulatory requirements, warranted or not. But there is a critical takeaway. It is not 2010, at the modern beginnings of compliance; it is 2025, and compliance is fundamentally different from what it was 15 years ago. Compliance practices and ethics programs have become deeply integrated into business operations, creating intrinsic value that transcends mere regulatory requirements. These practices have proven essential not only for managing regulatory risk but also for effectively managing broader business risks, operational efficiency, and corporate reputation.

Yet, despite the embedded nature of compliance in modern corporations, there’s a troubling scenario Matt outlined based on a keen observation from Kristy Grant-Hart. Could compliance functions gradually be absorbed by other departments? Could compliance tasks like hotline management drift toward HR, regulatory compliance fall into the hands of the legal department, and privacy compliance become the responsibility of IT security? Unfortunately, this scenario is not entirely implausible. Some short-sighted organizations might indeed take this fragmented route, viewing it as an opportunity to reduce headcount and costs.

Both Matt and I agree this is a dangerous and ultimately costly path. Fragmenting compliance capabilities across departments risks creating silos, precisely what compliance professionals have spent years fighting against. Silos impede effective communication and cloud transparency and hinder the swift, coordinated responses necessary to manage risk in today’s complex business environments. In short, this fragmentation threatens operational integrity, compliance effectiveness, and, ultimately, corporate profitability.

Instead of retrenching, compliance professionals must seize this uncertain moment as an opportunity. This is a time to demonstrate conclusively how compliance adds tangible business value beyond regulatory mandates. Hui Chen beautifully articulated this sentiment in her insightful blog post, urging compliance leaders to elevate their roles proactively. Chen recommends re-evaluating and broadening our compliance messaging, enhancing engagement with leadership, and demonstrating the clear business value compliance delivers to the organization.

Now, when we look at technology, particularly AI, there is palpable excitement and understandable anxiety within our compliance community. AI presents both extraordinary potential and a perceived threat. The crux of the concern is straightforward: could AI replace human compliance professionals?

AI undoubtedly enhances compliance capabilities significantly; it empowers us to manage larger, more complex data sets, swiftly identifies risks, automates repetitive compliance tasks, and enriches our analytical capabilities. But here’s the fundamental truth: AI requires a “human in the loop.” Human oversight, nuanced judgment, ethical considerations, and strategic thinking cannot, and should not, be outsourced entirely to algorithms.

Moreover, AI is not a threat but a tool that amplifies the effectiveness of compliance officers. Compliance professionals should proactively harness AI to enhance third-party risk management, improve whistleblower and speak-up programs, conduct more nuanced behavioral analytics, and streamline compliance training and communication. AI is here to augment, not eliminate, the vital role of the compliance officer.

Short-sighted individuals will always view AI as a cost-cutting opportunity. These individuals might attempt to unravel compliance functions, dispersing responsibilities across various departments supported by AI, thereby undermining the coherent strategic value a centralized compliance function provides.

Our response as compliance professionals should be unequivocal; robust compliance management and risk assessment capabilities are more critical now than ever. Compliance functions must remain centralized and strategic, leveraging technology to enhance rather than dilute their impact. We must clearly demonstrate to senior management how a strong, unified compliance function, bolstered by advanced technologies like AI, not only ensures regulatory compliance but actively strengthens operational resilience, business efficiency, and profitability.

In closing, Matt and I both agree these are indeed challenging and uncertain times for the compliance profession. However, they also represent a profound opportunity for growth and innovation and demonstrate the indispensable value compliance brings to businesses. Compliance professionals must rise to this challenge, proactively shaping the future rather than passively waiting for it to unfold.

As Matt aptly concluded, and I echo wholeheartedly, “I would bet on the durability of the ethics and compliance profession every day of the week.” I would only add that now is unquestionably the moment for compliance to step forward confidently, embracing innovation and clearly demonstrating its value as a strategic partner in business success.

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Daily Compliance News

Daily Compliance News: April 3, 2025, The Tribute to Ice Edition

Welcome to the Daily Compliance News. Each day, Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you compliance-related stories to start your day. Sit back, enjoy a cup of morning coffee, and listen to the Daily Compliance News—all from the Compliance Podcast Network. Each day, we consider four stories from the business world: compliance, ethics, risk management, leadership, or general interest for the compliance professional.

Top stories include:

  • End of SEC FCPA bribery unit. (Reuters)
  • Ex-Shell boss tasked with cleaning up Nigerian National Petroleum Company (NNPC).  (BBC)
  • The judge dismisses Adams’s case with prejudice. (NYT)
  • DOJ moves to dismiss FCPA trial of former Cognizant execs. (Law360) sub req’d
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10 For 10

10 For 10: Top Compliance Stories For the Week Ending March 29, 2025

Welcome to 10 For 10, the podcast that brings you the week’s Top 10 compliance stories in one podcast each week. Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you the compliance professional and the compliance stories you need to know to end your busy week. Sit back, and in 10 minutes, hear the stories every compliance professional should know from the prior week. Every Saturday, 10 For 10 highlights the most important news, insights, and analysis for the compliance professional, all curated by the Voice of Compliance, Tom Fox. Get your weekly filling of compliance stories with 10 for 10, a podcast produced by the Compliance Podcast Network.

  • Will Habba go to trial in the Cognizant Tech execs case?  (NY Post)
  • Boeing was sued for the wrongful death of a whistleblower. (WSJ)
  • Even Bloomberg says to enforce the FCPA. (Bloomberg)
  • The House speaker says Congress can eliminate district courts. (Reuters)
  • What is the fire risk for your business? (NYT)
  • Judge orders Boeing to trial. (WSJ)
  • Mintz’s staff was freed after 2 years in Chinese jail.  (BBC)
  • Blatter and Platini were cleared of corruption charges. (Reuters)
  • Target DEI flip-flop costs. (Bloomberg)
  • Nadine Menendez’s: From Under the Bus to ‘Mon Amor”. (Bloomberg)

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Daily Compliance News: March 28, 2025, The Cave or Go To Trial Edition

Welcome to the Daily Compliance News. Each day, Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you compliance-related stories to start your day. Sit back, enjoy a cup of morning coffee, and listen to the Daily Compliance News—all from the Compliance Podcast Network. Each day, we consider four stories from the business world: compliance, ethics, risk management, leadership, or general interest for the compliance professional.

Top stories include:

  • Rivals pounce on Paul Weiss lawyers. (NYT)
  • Will Habba go to trial in the Cognizant Tech execs case? (NY Post)
  • Boeing was sued for the wrongful death of a whistleblower. (WSJ)
  • Trump is wrecking the US armament business. (FT)