Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.
Today’s episode is a joint episode of the “Great Women in Compliance” and “Great Women in Fraud” podcasts. Lisa speaks with Kelly Paxton, who is a Certified Fraud Examiner, investigator, teacher and a well-known expert on “pink collar crime.”
Lisa and Kelly discuss what makes a “Great Woman in” Compliance and Fraud, and is there a crossover between the two professions. They focus on the importance of mentors, removing barriers and what challenges are unique to our gender, professor, either or both.
The talk about how someone in an organization who is less senior, but very experienced employees can be very susceptible to the fraud triangle. They also discuss the human decisions that impact fraud and compliance, and what they wish they knew earlier and the reminder that #whistleblowersareheroes.
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Tag: fraud
In today’s edition of Daily Compliance News:
- Fraud in licensing. (Bloomberg)
- SPACs sinking. (WSJ)
- The humble resume is still critical? (NYT)
- No mercy corruption crackdown in China. (YaHoo!News)
Welcome to this special podcast series, Integrity Matters sponsored by K2 Integrity. For this series, I visit with Koby Bambilia, Managing Director, and Olivia Allison, Senior Managing Director. Over the series, we look some issues and trends going forward into 2022. In Part 1, I am joined by Olivia Allison who looks at fraud trends going into 2022. Highlights include:
- WFH and RTO will continue to present evolving challenges for fraud prevention.
- Controls must be assessed and enhanced based upon changed working environments.
- Impact of the Great Resignation and workforce mobility.
- Multi-vector crisis and fraud prevention.
- Use of fraud dashboards.
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Fraud Trends for 2022
I recently had the chance to visit with Olivia Allison, Senior Managing Director at K2 Integrity. We looked at some key fraud trends in 2021 and how they might influence fraud investigation, prevention and enforcement going forward into 2022. We began with a discussion of general fraud trends from 2021, particularly around Covid-19 issues, such as personal protective equipment (PPE), and monies distributed by governments to bolster national economies, such as Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) in the United States. Allison added that supply chain issues were also a contributing factor to these issues. She found that during investigations related to COVID procurement and healthcare procurement specifically in relation to the pandemic there were supply chains issues regarding fraud.
She believes going forward there will continue to be fraud investigations as more allegations are put forward about fraud in both COVID procurement and public procurement. Of course, the government is interested in these categories because fraudsters are trying to defraud the government out of funds. Interestingly, she found issues around fraud and data security, particularly in the heyday of working from home (WFH). This may well change in 2022 when we have a Return to the Office (RTO) but with the surge of the Omicron variant many companies are shelving RTO plans until the spring 2022.
WFH led to wider fraud inside of companies because employees were “bypassing controls, sometimes maliciously, sometimes it’s not fraudulent, but they just think that the controls are inconvenient.” This was coupled with the troubling phenomenon that Allison has seen reported recently that millennials “just think that some controls are inconvenient and they just try to work around them.” This obviously puts organizations at risk and from a culture perspective can be very damaging.
Allison noted that another risk factor for fraud she is following in 2022 are two related phenomena. They are the mobility of the work force coupled with the Great Resignation. These have led to people moving around a lot more in the labor market. With folks changing jobs and working remotely; it is very difficult to have the same level of connection with your employer. Companies must work much harder to build some kind of consistent culture. One of the prongs of the Fraud Triangle is Rationalization, that “the company owes me a bit more or something like that and if you do not have that level of loyalty, there is a kind of widespread risk that people may be justifying certain actions to themselves.” Allison believes that there are “a lot of things brewing that are difficult for companies, whether it’s supply chain or data, or employee loyalty, that may cause problems in the future.”
We then turned to what Allison characterized as “multi-vector crisis” which is when multiple crises coming from many different directions. As a compliance officer or fraud examiner, you are not simply responding to one threat or even one threat vector but several at the same time. Allison believes are some steps an organization can take to manage such risks. The first is “you need to make sure that your protocols, data security, policies and procedures are clear and manageable. Then train when onboarding your staff so employee understand your procedures and monitor that they are actually following them.” Finally, ensure “what is written on paper is also what happens in practice.” I would also add Document Document Document.
Additionally, companies are building dashboards of different fraud indicators. But that is only a starting point as they then must use the data to prevent fraud. She added, “I think that is a trend and also something that companies need to be looking at as they are using data. It is more than just gathering data, its actually using the data to drive decisions.” Finally, if you have not done so since the pandemic shut down the country in March 2020, you should “refresh your training.” From the training perspective, Allison believes that more frequent, yet shorter messaging is better. You can certainly have a longer annual targeted training but here she agrees with Tina Rampino that an “espresso shot” of training can be more effective.
From the controls perspective, you need to determine if different types of frauds are happening within your organization or if the situation is simply that controls are being bypassed. If there is a control bypass or override, this needs to be closed off or the bypass needs to be approved by senior management with an appropriate business justification. Of course, controls issues need to be considered when thinking about different working practices and where your employees work; whether that is WFH, RTO, work outside the physical office or a hybrid situation.
We concluded by looking at whistleblowers and the recently implemented EU Whistleblower Directive, which came into force in December 2021. In at least the last four or five ACFE Reports to the Nations, one of the consistent themes is that fraud is almost always detected internally and either reported internally or picked up through internal audit or internal controls or some other mechanism. With the EU Whistleblower Directive and the governmental monies being poured into the economies to rebuild infrastructure and other projects, Allison expects to see an increase in whistleblowers reporting fraud. This includes internal reporting and reporting to the government where a potential bounty is in play. But Allison also cautioned that the “media is a sort of third line of whistleblowing” which we saw in 2021 with the Facebook whistleblower, Francis Haugen.
All of these factors lead Allison to believe that the risk of fraud and fraud reporting will increase in 2022. Companies need to train their front-line employees to prevent fraud before it happens. Controls need to be assessed in light of the evolving work locations. Of course, the government is very interested in both fraud prevention but also fraud detection and prosecution so 2022 could well be a more significant year than 2021.
Welcome to a special five-part K2 Integrity sponsored podcast, series Business and Financial Fraud: Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow. Over the course of this series I have been joined by Joanne Taylor, a Managing Director at K2 Integrity. She has 20 years of legal, investigations and financial crime compliance experience, working within the financial and legal services industries. I am also joined by Ray Dookhie, a Managing Director in K2 Integrity’s Investigations and Risk Advisory practice, with more than 25 years of experience in compliance, integrity risk monitoring and management, and investigations. Over the series, we have considered the top fraud trends you might expect to see in 2021, what the regulatory landscape may well look like in 2021, best practices in fraud prevention, how to detect fraud and responding to fraud once it is uncovered. In our concluding episode, Part 5, Ray Dookhie joins me to discuss what a company should do after allegations of fraud arise.
Welcome to a special five-part K2 Integrity sponsored podcast, series Business and Financial Fraud: Yesterday, Today, and Tomorrow. In this series I am joined by Joanne Taylor, a Managing Director at K2 Integrity. She has 20 years of legal, investigations and financial crime compliance experience, working within the financial and legal services industries. I am also joined by Ray Dookhie, a Managing Director in K2 Integrity’s Investigations and Risk Advisory practice, with more than 25 years of experience in compliance, integrity risk monitoring and management, and investigations. Over this series, we will consider the top fraud trends you might expect to see in 2021, what the regulatory landscape may well look like in 2021, best practices in fraud prevention, how to detect fraud and responding to fraud once it is uncovered. In Part 3, Ray Dookhie reviews best practices in fraud prevention.
Join us tomorrow in Part 4 where we look at strategies for detecting fraud.
For more information on K2 Integrity, check out their website here.
In this episode, we talk about why this may be exactly the right time to perform a meaningful fraud risk assessment. Fraud risks are like potential explosions. The vulnerability of fraud can lay dormant for years until and unless someone in a position to exploit the control weakness, formulates a rationalization and is off and running. Joining us today is Bruce Dorris CEO and President of Association of Certified Fraud Examiners. The ACFE is a member organization of over 85,000 Certified Fraud Examiners and the world’s largest anti-fraud organization. The ACFE is also a standard setter for anti-fraud and investigative leading industry practices having created many important publications including the Report to the Nations, the Occupational Fraud and Abuse Classification System and the Fraud Risk Management Guide.
Join us each week as we take a deep dive into the various forms of fraud across the world and discuss crime families, penny stock boiler rooms, international money launderers, narco-traffickers, oligarchs, dictators, war lords, kleptocrats and more.
Scott Moritz is a leading authority on white-collar crime, anti-corruption, and in the evaluation, design, remediation, implementation, and administration of corporate compliance programs, codes of conduct. He is also considered an authority in the establishment, training, and oversight of the investigative protocols carried out by financial intelligence, corporate security, and internal audit units.
In this episode, we talk about remote witness interviews and how to make the best of a bad situation using time-tested interrogation techniques and other methods. While things are starting to return to something resembling normal, our use of video conferencing as a business tool is here to stay. I’ve been fielding a lot of questions about use of body language and other techniques to try to limit a witness or deponent’s ability to be coached or misdirect the interviewer. With us today is a subject matter expert on interviewing and interrogation skills, Michael Bret Hood. Bret is the Founding Partner of 21st Century Learning & Consulting, LLC where he teaches leadership skills. He is also an adjunct professor of Corporate Governance and Ethics at University of Virginia.
Join us each week as we take a deep dive into the various forms of fraud across the world and discuss crime families, penny stock boiler rooms, international money launderers, narco-traffickers, oligarchs, dictators, war lords, kleptocrats and more.
Scott Moritz is a leading authority on white-collar crime, anti-corruption, and in the evaluation, design, remediation, implementation, and administration of corporate compliance programs, codes of conduct. He is also considered an authority in the establishment, training, and oversight of the investigative protocols carried out by financial intelligence, corporate security, and internal audit units.
In this second episode of Fraud Eats Strategy, Scott Moritz speaks to Neil Barofsky, a partner at Jenner & Block and the former Special Inspector General of the Troubled Asset Relief Program about these issues. We will explore the increased discovery of financial crimes that occur in a down cycle of the economy and how organizations can use fraud risk assessments to identify fraud, pursue avenues of recovery and strengthen their organizations against the potential negative consequences of fraud.
Join us each week as we take a deep dive into the various forms of fraud across the world and discuss crime families, penny stock boiler rooms, international money launderers, narco-traffickers, oligarchs, dictators, war lords, kleptocrats and more.
Scott Moritz is a leading authority on white-collar crime, anti-corruption, and in the evaluation, design, remediation, implementation, and administration of corporate compliance programs, codes of conduct. He is also considered an authority in the establishment, training, and oversight of the investigative protocols carried out by financial intelligence, corporate security, and internal audit units.