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The PFBCon Podcast: The State of Business Podcast Report 2025: Key Trends from the Top 100 Shows with Megan Dougherty

At the Podcasting for Business Conference, Megan Dougherty of One Stone Creative presents the 2025 State of Business Podcasting Report, an annual human-researched analysis of Apple Podcasts’ Top 100 business shows.

She outlines the methodology and emphasizes the findings are informative, not prescriptive, then shares major trends: roughly 52% list churn year over year, over 20% of top shows are under two years old, about 91% publish weekly or more, and average episode length remains tightly clustered around 42–46 minutes (with ~60 minutes most common). B2B shows are more likely to include video and be in networks, while sponsorship appears on nearly 60% of shows, typically via midrolls. Branding trends skew darker (black/blue), 70% feature host photos, most lack merch, and ~70% have a direct-sales main offer. Video and YouTube are dominant (97% have channels), while social activity declines on X/Instagram/Facebook, and LinkedIn remains a key platform for weekly content.

Key highlights:

  • Churn and Podcast Age
  • Release Cadence Trends
  • Audience Demographics
  • B2B vs. B2C Strategy
  • Monetization Main Offers
  • Show Structure Blueprints
  • Podcast Networks Breakdown
  • Social Media, YouTube, and Platform-by-Platform Posting

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Bryan Barletta on the Podcast Movement + Sounds Profitable Merger: What Changes for Creators, Brands, and Business Growth

Bryan Barletta discusses why he initiated the merger between Sounds Profitable and Podcast Movement, aiming to better serve the broader podcast ecosystem beyond a few large companies and to reinvent events in a post-COVID world focused on meaningful connections and ROI. He explains that Sounds Profitable will continue its day-to-day research, consulting, and partner network, while Podcast Movement will anchor major events, including a three-day, free-to-the-public program at South by Southwest and an August main event likely based in New York to improve global accessibility and pricing fairness. The conversation covers podcasting’s evolution into a business development and marketing tool, with brands valuing engagement across platforms, not just downloads. Bryan outlines initiatives to improve networking and meeting matchmaking, increase transparency in speaker selection, expand diversity, provide speaker training, and explore honoraria while emphasizing that the real value of events lies in in-room connections.

Key highlights:

  • Why the Merger Happened
  • New Structure and Role
  • Podcasting as a Business Tool
  • Attracting CMOs and Buyers
  • Designing Better Networking
  • Beyond Downloads Metrics
  • South by Southwest Access
  • Future Initiatives and Wrap

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The PFBCon Podcast: From Podcast to Book (and Back): Building a Content Engine with AI Support

Tom Fox explains how podcasts and books can fuel each other in a circular content-creation process and how AI can assist as a research and editorial assistant. Drawing on experience founding the Compliance Podcast Network (growing from five to 75 shows) and the Texas Hill Country Podcast Network (from three to 15 shows, with 3,000 subscribers), they emphasize the value of podcasting, especially in rural areas. Examples include creating a podcast that led to a book about seven older female artists, producing a leader’s autobiography by recording outlined life stories into transcripts (earning a gold podcast award), and turning books into podcast series (e.g., risk management/AI, FCPA Survival Guide, and Megan Dougherty’s Podcasting for Business to support her launch). They describe writing The Compliance Handbook via daily podcast recordings as an editing tool and using AI prompts to generate topic ideas, guest outlines, blog drafts, white paper drafts, chapter drafts, and social post drafts—always requiring human fact-checking and editing.

Key highlights:

  • Podcast Book Loop
  • Building Podcast Networks
  • Magnificent Seven Story
  • Legacy Autobiography Podcast
  • Upping Your Game Brand
  • FCPA Book to Podcast
  • Podcasting for Business Launch
  • Compliance Handbook Method
  • Write What You Love
  • AI Research Editorial Tools

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LinkedIn

Compliance Podcast Network

Texas Hill Country Podcast Network

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The PFBCon Podcast: Back to the Future of Podcasting: The Audio–Video Convergence with Rob Greenlee

Rob Greenlee discusses podcasting’s evolution from early audio roots to an initial wave of video podcasts, a decade-long industry emphasis on audio influenced by shows like Serial and radio’s entry, and today’s renewed convergence of audio and video driven by audience preferences and platform dynamics. He notes the video’s long-standing presence on devices like Microsoft’s Zune and parallels with YouTube’s proprietary model, which have fueled ongoing debate over what defines a podcast. 

Greenlee highlights the challenges creators face in balancing high-quality audio with compelling video, the complexities of multi-format distribution, and the value of optimizing separate audio and video versions rather than simply extracting audio from video. He also points to renewed TV-like distribution trends and emphasizes community-building and engagement-focused monetization beyond raw download numbers.

Key highlights:

  • Podcasting has come full circle.
  • Early video podcasting was more important than many remember.
  • YouTube has redefined podcasting.
  • The future belongs to hybrid creators.
  • Workflow pressure is now one of the biggest challenges for creators.
  • Distribution strategy matters more than ever.
  • Every platform needs its own version of the content.
  • Engagement is becoming the new currency of advertising.

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Follow Rob Greenlee on:

Personal Website

New Media Show Live

Trust Factor with Rob Greenlee

Spoken Life Podcast

Adore Network

YouTube

Instagram

LinkedIn

Facebook

X(formerly Twitter)

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The PFBCon Podcast: Podcasting as a Law Firm Growth Engine: How Hughes Hubbard & Reed Uses Branded Audio

Mike DeBernardis, Partner at Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP, and Jess Weliwitigoda, Director of Marketing and Business Development at Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP, discuss how the firm leverages its branded podcast, All Things Investigations, as a marketing and business development tool.

They describe how the podcast originated from Mike’s appearances on Tom’s FCPA Compliance Report and evolved into a platform to showcase firm expertise, introduce new lawyers to clients and prospects, spotlight niche practices, and repurpose content for broader branding impact. Key benefits discussed include faster production than writing articles, the ability to respond to current events with less lead time, and a more human, relationship-building voice behind the firm’s brand. They also note the podcast’s value in building both personal and internal brands by connecting with colleagues across practices, and highlight the challenge of maintaining a consistent publishing cadence.

Key highlights:

  • Mike and Jess Backgrounds
  • Origin of the Podcast
  • Why Podcasting Works
  • Efficiency and Prep Time
  • Brand Building and Consistency

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Hughes Hubbard & Reed LLP

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Spotify

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Compliance Podcast Network

Mike DeBernardis LinkedIn

Jess Weliwitigoda LinkedIn

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The PFBCon Podcast: Turn Your Podcast into a Trackable Growth Engine with Instagram DM Automation with Jeff Dwoskin

Jeff Dwoskin, Co-Founder of Stampede Social and a longtime podcaster, explains how podcasters can turn episodes into measurable growth engines by using Instagram and Facebook DM automation to connect podcast calls to action to trackable engagement and conversions.

Jeff outlines the core problem that podcasts are powerful but opaque—downloads don’t reveal who took action—and proposes a simple attribution path: prompt listeners to comment or DM a keyword, automatically deliver links via DM, and measure clicks and engagement to prove ROI. Jeff emphasizes why Instagram works well for podcasters (two-way conversations, discovery, private/trackable DMs), why “link in bio” adds friction, and how clear CTAs increase response. He highlights additional tactics, including Reels/Shorts/TikTok for discovery, Instagram Live with automation, giveaways, fan tracking, dashboards, social scorecards, and competitive reporting, plus a new YouTube comment automation feature that routes clickable links via YouTube notifications. The conversation closes with a reminder to evolve with audience behavior and formats—using a yacht rock/MTV analogy and a note that younger audiences watch YouTube like TV—along with a Black Friday offer code (indie50) for 50% off the middle and top Stampede Social plans.

Key highlights:

  • Turning Podcasts into Growth
  • The Podcast Attribution Problem
  • DMs Create Trackable ROI
  • Why Instagram Works
  • Calls to Action That Convert
  • Discovery Beyond Followers
  • Lives Giveaways Superfans
  • Case Study 70% Click Rate
  • Frictionless Engagement Rules
  • Dashboards and Social Intel
  • New YouTube Comment Automation
  • Yacht Rock and Evolving Media

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Stampede Social

LinkedIn

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Classic Conversations Podcast

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The PFBCon Podcast: Legal Must-Knows for Business Podcasters: Protect Your Brand, Content & Reputation with Gordon Firemark

Entertainment and media attorney Gordon Firemark (“the podcast lawyer”) delivers a session on essential legal principles for podcasters using shows as a business or within a business.

Gordon explains that publishing a podcast makes you responsible like a professional media company and outlines key areas to manage risk and build long-term value: forming a legal entity to separate personal and business liability; documenting ownership with written agreements (including “work made for hire” language) for co-hosts, contractors, and contributors; using a “podcast prenup” to define control, revenue, expenses, and exit scenarios; protecting intellectual property through copyright registration and trademark selection/registration (including searching the USPTO and avoiding generic titles), illustrated by a case where waiting to file caused years of trademark conflict; avoiding copyright problems by licensing/using royalty-free content and not relying on fair use as a “get out of jail free” claim; requiring guest release agreements to prevent takedown demands and disputes, including clauses covering editing, repurposing, and AI use; structuring sponsorship and brand deals with clear payment terms and deliverables; complying with FTC disclosure rules for endorsements, affiliate relationships, gifts, and paid interviews; and reducing defamation/privacy risk through fact-checking, respecting NDAs, and using disclaimers for legal/health/financial advice. He closes with resources and where to find him online, including his sites and podcaster community.

Key highlights:

  • Why Podcasters Need Legal Thinking
  • Gordon’s Podcasting Origin Story
  • The Three Pillars of Protection
  • Entities and Ownership Basics
  • Co-Hosts and Podcast Prenup
  • Copyright and Fair Use Myths
  • Trademarks and Naming Your Show
  • Guest Releases and Control
  • Sponsorships and FTC Disclosures
  • Defamation, Privacy, and Disclaimers 

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Follow Gordon Firemark on:

Entertainment Law Offices of Gordon P. Firemark

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Website

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Facebook

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The PFBCon Podcast: From Mic to Millions: AI-Powered Sponsorship, Licensing & Equity Strategies for Podcasters with Shadeed Eleazer

Shadeed Eleazer, a prominent business architect, licensing strategist, and U.S. Navy veteran based in Maryland, and Host of the Conversational Currency podcast, presents “Mic to Millions” at the Podcasting for Business Conference, focusing on the intersection of podcasting, tech, and monetization. He outlines a roadmap to shift from being a content creator to a licensing-ready business owner by treating a podcast as a long-term asset and using AI as a strategic growth partner for leverage, research, proposal writing, and faster execution. He shares current best practices for prompt engineering (role, context, scenario, goal, desired outcome), recommends using a prompt engine to organize reusable outreach and proposal templates, and emphasizes an iterative approach that uses samples and documentation.

He highlights industry benchmarks on podcast consistency (minimum 10 episodes and a release within 90 days to be considered active), notes high early drop-off rates, and argues that consistency and maintaining a sustainable cadence create a major competitive advantage. He covers strategies for local and national partnerships, including sponsoring yourself with a core offer integrated into intro/outro/show notes and a memorable domain, building local authority through partnerships like a newspaper byline linking to episodes, and using podcast-driven livestream fundraising, citing support for the Baltimore Teachers Union during COVID. He describes a regional partnership with Google, tied to an initiative addressing digital illiteracy and philanthropic reinvestment through DonorsChoose, which helped modernize over 1,000 classrooms.

He advises using short-form clipping instead of heavy editing, recommending Opus Clips, and suggests building a “Dream 50” list of local leaders to interview and schedule clips far in advance. He explains licensing as professionals licensing intellectual property rather than selling content, cites examples such as minimum bulk orders and religious publishing, and recommends creating a one-sheet, a landing page, and an AI-assisted pitch deck (Gamma). He closes with equity deal principles—money as the only currency, researching business gaps, and creating win-win proposals—sharing examples of negotiation experiences and compensation through access, and offering a corporate client readiness checklist. 

Key highlights:

  • Podcasting Reality Check
  • AI Prompt Tools and Framework
  • Business Structure and Protection
  • Local Market Leverage
  • Sponsorship and Self-Sponsoring
  • Local to National Partnerships
  • Clips Strategy and Dream 50
  • Licensing Basics and Pitch Assets
  • Equity Deals Beyond Cash

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Conversational Currency Podcast

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The PFBCon Podcast: Regulatory Ramblings Wins the 2025 Agora Award: Inside the Podcast Bringing Clarity to Global Financial Regulation

At a conference, the 2025 Agora Award for Excellence in Podcasting is formally presented to Regulatory Ramblings, recognizing its role in clarifying complex global financial regulation through expert, long-form dialogue and its contribution to transparency, accountability, and informed public discourse. Host Ajay Shamdasani (a veteran financial and legal journalist and senior research fellow at the University of Hong Kong) discusses the show’s origins—modeled on the idea of telling “the story of money” through the interconnections of law, regulation, finance, and capital—and how its scope has evolved to include ESG, sustainability, inclusion, and geopolitical risk alongside topics like money laundering, sanctions, fraud, crypto/Web3, cybercrime, anti-corruption, and human trafficking.

Ajay outlines the production team and roles (Professor Douglas Arner as team leader with editorial freedom; producer Prospero Laput as the technical backbone; admin support from Neo; research support, including Ying Man Chan) and explains a format change, adding a short topical segment before a longer interview to accommodate audience attention spans while keeping conversations authentic. The discussion also covers the podcast’s growing global reach through the Compliance Podcast Network, increased inbound guest and collaboration requests, listener feedback on episodes about U.S. regulatory shifts (including the FCPA, AML enforcement, and the GENIUS Act), and how the show anchors global issues back to Hong Kong and Asia-Pacific. Ajay reflects on the emotional impact of the human trafficking episode with Matt Friedman and comments on Hong Kong’s regulatory and fintech landscape versus Singapore and Dubai, the role and reputation of HKU Law, and broader themes of shifting global power centers, sanctions, and managed globalization. The episode closes with Ajay’s view that podcasting can be a public service that spreads ideas, builds awareness of institutions and research, and creates opportunities for collaboration.

Key highlights:

  • Agora Award Announcement: 2025 Excellence in Podcasting
  • Why They Won: “We’re Still Here” and Hong Kong’s Global Role
  • Origin Story & Mission: Telling the Story of Money (and Everything Connected)
  • Behind the Mic: Who Does What on the Show
  • Format Evolution: Spotlight Segments, Audience Attention, and Editorial Choices
  • Toughest Topics: Human Trafficking Episode and the Emotional Toll
  • HKU’s Role: Hong Kong’s Legal Education Powerhouse
  • Hong Kong Finance Today: FinTech, Crypto Rules, and Traditional Banking Reality
  • Growing the Audience: Compliance Podcast Network, Brand Awareness, and Listener Impact
  • Covering a Region (and the World): Balancing Local Hong Kong Anchors with Global News
  • US–China Thaw? Decoupling, Trade Realities, and What Comes Next
  • Why Professionals Should Podcast: Influence, Public Service, and Collaboration

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HKU FinTech Website

Apple Podcast

Spotify

YouTube

Amazon Music

Podcast Addict

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LinkedIn

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The PfBCon Podcast: Unlocking the Power of Podcast Networks with John Largent

In this episode of the PfBCon Podcast, John Largent, Founder and CEO of Largent Media, dives deep into the world of podcast networks.

John discusses the advantages of joining a network, how to elevate your podcast’s reach, and the importance of consistency and collaboration within networks. John also touches on potential challenges, including meeting benchmarks and maintaining quality standards. With practical examples and insights from his extensive experience, this episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to take their podcast to the next level.

Key highlights:

  • Understanding Podcast Networks
  • The Power of Joining a Network
  • Monetization and Cross-Promotional Power
  • Discovery Advantage and Real-Life Examples
  • What Networks Look for in Podcasters
  • Consistency and Engagement in Networks
  • Challenges and Considerations in Joining a Network

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Visit Largent Media on:

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