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2 Gurus Talk Compliance

2 Gurus Talk Compliance – Episode 1

What happens when two top compliance commentators get together? They talk compliance, of course. Join Kristy Grant-Hart and Tom Fox for their new podcast, 2 Gurus Talk Compliance! But it is not simply Kristy and Tom talking about compliance. In this podcast series, Kristy and Tom also review other top commentators in compliance. In this podcast, we will consider all things compliance, corporate ethics, ESG, governance, and whatever else is on our minds and the minds of other experts in the field. Kristy and Tom explore all of these topics with expertise and wit.

In this inaugural episode, they discuss the latest compliance trends and news, including two Supreme Court cases that have implications for the compliance profession. They also cover the Department of Justice and whistleblower trends, taking a look at Miranda and Upjohn’s warnings and increasing numbers of whistleblower reports to the SEC. They also dive into an article from the Harvard Law School Forum on corporate governance and discuss the Illinois Biometric law. Join the conversation and discover the latest on compliance and regulations with 2 Gurus Talk Compliance.

Highlights Include

The Role of In-House Attorneys in Communication Between Outside Counsel and Businesses [00:05:17]

Supreme Court Decision on the Future of the CFPB [00:09:11]

Impact of the Colorado Draft Regulation on Artificial Intelligence Compliance Programs [00:13:23]

The Benefits of Automated Data Deletion [00:17:23]

A Miranda component to corporate Upjohn Warnings [00:21:25]

The Obligation of Society to Address Climate Change [00:25:33]

The Benefits of Self-Disclosure in the DOJ Justice System [00:29:18]

The Role of the Board in Overseeing Third Parties in High-Risk Countries [00:33:14]

The Impact of Whistleblowers on the SEC [00:40:54]

White Castle’s Violation of Illinois Biometric Law [00:45:05]

Notable Quotes

  1. The DOJ is urging a federal judge to sanction Google’s parent, Alphabet, for its practice of setting employee chats to auto delete despite promising to preserve records.”
  2. “It goes beyond the specifics of this law, something you and I have talked about for several years now, that the compliance function and the CCO is well perhaps the most well-suited corporate discipline to deal with these new initiatives because it’s the basic framework of compliance that you and I have worked with for 15 years.”
  3. “Most compliance programs just don’t have good frameworks for things like AI or for big data even though we’ve been using that word for a long time.”

Resources

  1. Boards and 3rd Party Risk Oversight
  2. CO Draft AI Rules for Insurance
  3. Miranda Warnings in Corp Investigation
  4. Current whistleblowing landscape
  5. Has the stature of the CCO changed? 
  6. Analysis of the DOJ’s update to the self-disclosure program
  7. Supreme Court considering defunding the CFTC
  8. Trends in state privacy law   
  9. Litigation holds and records retention/Google/DOJ  
  10. Individuals charged – first enforcement action 2023 

Connect with Kristy Grant-Hart on LinkedIn

Spark Consulting

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Daily Compliance News

January 13, 2023 – The Friday the 13th Edition

Welcome to the Daily Compliance News. Each day, Tom Fox, the Voice of Compliance, brings you compliance-related stories to start your day. Sit back, enjoy a cup of morning coffee and listen to the Daily Compliance News. All from the Compliance Podcast Network. Each day we consider four stories from the business world, compliance, ethics, risk management, leadership, or general interest for the compliance professional.

Stories today include

  • Corruption inflates construction costs in Zambia. (Reuters)
  • More AML whistleblowers are expected. (WSJ)
  • US Sentencing Commission provides suggestions. (Reuters)
  • Sullivan & Cromwell under more scrutiny in FTX bankruptcy. (FT)
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Blog

Fighting Transparency and Whistleblowers

We sadly had two more examples of how companies are fighting transparency and the light of day through actions taken against whistleblowers. With these two examples we see once again how businesses which say they have a speak up culture and an open-door policy in writing do not seem to follow these prescriptions in practice. One comes from the world of sports (NBA basketball) and the second involves Exxon Mobil Corporation (Exxon).

If you are any kind of pro basketball fan, you have heard about the ‘altercation’ between Golden State Warriors Draymond Green and Justin Poole. Following an initial report of an ‘altercation’ occurring during a practice this week, TMZ released a video of the incident. After some unknown verbal sparring, Poole pushes Green away from him. Green then winds up and coldcocks Poole, knocking him down. Green’s initial response was essentially, I am sorry you are sorry. After the video was released, Green fully apologized and announced he was taking some time off.

What was the Warriors response to all this? According to ESPN, the public airing of the video and ensuing transparency, “has impacted the way the team has been able to move forward from the altercation. “In 32 years, I’ve probably seen 20-plus fights. It should not make it out of our walls,” Kerr said. “When things are kept internally, it’s almost easy to handle,” he continued. “As soon as things are leaked, all hell breaks loose. That affects every single player, coach. … It’s like if you had a camera in your family and there was a family dispute. Would you really want to discuss it with the world? No.”” According to Fox Sports, “the Warriors are taking “every legal course of action” to discover how the video was released to the public.”

For those NBA fans who do not remember, Laker Kermit Washington severely injured Rocket Rudy in 1978 with a similar punch to the face. So, this is not a ‘boys will be boys’ or a hyper competitive player dancing on the edge issue, but a full personal safety at work issue. What do the Warriors want too about it? Apparently not much as Outkick.com wrote, “Warriors general manager Bob Myers discussed the situation on Thursday. He stated that Green’s punishment would be “dealt with internally,” with little expectation for the 10-year veteran to miss any games in the upcoming season as a result. “There’s nothing that warranted the situation yesterday. I want to make that clear. It’s also something we feel like won’t derail our season and that’s with Draymond a part of that,” Myers told reporters.”

In a case from the more traditional corporate world, involving Exxon. The Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported, “The Labor Department said it found Exxon Mobil Corp. illegally fired two company scientists over suspicions they shared information with The Wall Street Journal about concerns the pair had earlier raised with the company. The department’s Occupational Safety and Health Administration on Friday said Exxon must reinstate the two employees and pay them more than $800,000 in back wages, interest and damages.” In other words, Exxon has been found to have fired two whistleblowers.

The WSJ further noted, “Citing current and former employees, the Journal reported in September 2020 that some staff assigned to the Permian, the most active U.S. oil field, thought Exxon had been overly optimistic about an earlier projection it could increase oil and gas production in the New Mexico and West Texas region to 1 million barrels of oil equivalent per day as early as 2024. The people told the Journal that Exxon had overestimated how quickly it could drill wells there, which they said led the company to overvalue the asset by billions of dollars. Exxon later fired two scientists. The Labor Department determined the firings were prompted by Exxon’s suspicions the pair had brought information to the Journal.”

“Exxon denied the allegations at the time and has repeatedly said it has met and exceeded its drilling targets.” The WSJ went on to note, “Exxon claimed it had fired one of the scientists for mishandling proprietary information and another for “a negative attitude,” job hunting and losing management’s confidence.” Exxon spokesman Casey Norton, as quoted in the WSJ, said, “The terminations in late 2020 were unrelated to the ill-founded concerns raised by the employees in 2019.” Exxon has said that it will appeal.

Interestingly, in 2021, the WSJ “reported the Securities and Exchange Commission launched an investigation following an employee’s whistleblower complaint alleging the company’s overvaluation of the Permian had misled investors. The agency earlier this year closed the investigation and said it would not recommend an enforcement action against Exxon.” Additionally, “A federal judge in Texas dismissed a lawsuit last week brought by Exxon shareholders alleging the company misled investors about the value of its Permian assets. The judge determined the plaintiffs had not shown enough evidence that Exxon executives deliberately defrauded investors. The judge said they can refile the complaint with additional evidence.”

It is not clear if there was new evidence brought forward in this OSHA case that was not available to the SEC or federal district court. Perhaps OSHA found Exxon’s version of events not plausible. Nevertheless, coupled with the Warriors response to the leaking of Green punching a teammate, it seems that corporate America will try to prevent transparency at all costs. Compliance professionals would do well to make sure their organizations not simply welcome whistleblowers but embrace them to prevent fraud, waste and abuse and illegal conduct from moving forward in their organization.

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Great Women in Compliance

Shannon Walker – A Holistic Approach to Raising Concerns

Welcome to the Great Women in Compliance Podcast, co-hosted by Lisa Fine and Mary Shirley.

A critical topic for any ethics and compliance program is the ability for employees to raise concerns – from the initial speak-up process to the interview to the potential for retaliation: Shannon Walker, the founder, and CEO at WhistleBlower Security, Confidential Ethics Reporting & Case Management Solutions.

Shannon started in communications for large organizations in the US and Canada. She founded WhistleBlower Security with a vision to make the process easier and more comfortable for reporters while protecting organizations.  Lisa and Shannon have a wide-ranging conversation about the differences between telephone and online reporters, a provider’s responsibility to reporters and how that relates to their responsibilities to an organization and different ideas about how organizations can best “triage” in all parts of the investigation cycle.

Shannon has always been committed to diversity and ESG, and she also talks about how becoming a “B Corp” has been a great learning process and an excellent accomplishment.

Are you planning on heading to the SCCE CEI in Phoenix in October?  Check out Lisa and Mary’s speaking sessions on the agenda and sign up!  We invite you to say hello and introduce yourself during the conference – it’s going to be a great time.

The Great Women in Compliance Podcast is on the Compliance Podcast Network with a selection of other Compliance-related offerings to listen to.  If you enjoy this episode, please rate it on your preferred podcast player to help other like-minded Ethics and Compliance professionals find it.  You can also find the GWIC podcast on Corporate Compliance Insights, where Lisa and Mary have a landing page with additional information about them and the podcast’s story.  Corporate Compliance Insights is a much-appreciated sponsor and supporter of GWIC, including affiliate organization CCI Press publishing the related book, “Sending the Elevator Back Down, What We’ve Learned from Great Women in Compliance” (CCI Press, 2020).

You can subscribe to the Great Women in Compliance podcast on any podcast player by searching for it, and we welcome new subscribers to our podcast.

Join the Great Women in Compliance community on LinkedIn here.

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FCPA Compliance Report

Mary Inman on the Current State of Whistleblowing


In this episode of the FCPA Compliance Report, I am joined by Mary Inman, partner at Constatine Cannon. We look at recent developments in whistleblowing and how the Ukraine War has increased the visibility of whistleblowers. Highlights of this podcast include:

  1. Whistleblower Reward Program at the US Treasury Department/FinCEN – what is its relevance to corruption, anti-money laundering and the Ukraine conflict.
  2. The House Committee on Financial Services voted to strengthen the U.S. Treasury’s Anti-Money Laundering (AML) whistleblower program.  What does this mean for this  nascent program?
  3. How does a minimum whistleblower reward threshold, whistleblower incentives and injects more certainty into the Anti-Money Laundering whistleblower program.
  4. How does expanding AML whistleblower rewards to cover laws applicable to Russian sanctions, Congress is enlisting the help of the private citizenry.
  5. Lisa Monaco recently spoke about the government relying on corporations to ID instancesof money-laundering and other activities to help enforcement Russia economic sanctions and broader trade sanctions. Do you see private citizen or other whistleblowers as a key component of this fight?
  6. How has the Ukraine War raised the profile of whistleblowers and whistleblowing?
  7. Starting with SOX, then Dodd-Frank and the AML Law of 2020 has the US government began to understand whistleblowers as a key component in the fight against fraud, waste and abuse.
  8. Has the government embraced these same strategies and tactics in the wider fight against corruption?
  9. Tribute to Chuck Grassley for his advocacy of whistleblowers.

 Resources
Mary Inman on Constantine Cannon website

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Daily Compliance News

July 21, 2022 the JPMorgan Whistleblower Headed to Trial edition


In today’s edition of Daily Compliance News:

  • Banks are turning to AI more and more for compliance issues. (WSJ)
  • JPMorgan whistleblower headed to trial. (Bloomberg)
  • Corruption concerns in Ukraine rear ugly head. (NPR)
  • Gibson Dunn accuses King & Spalding. (Reuters)
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Daily Compliance News

July 12, 2021 the Shelly on Corruption edition


In today’s edition of Daily Compliance News:

  • Percy Bysshe Shelly on corruption. (The Guardian)
  • How to survive the summer travel fiasco. (NYT)
  • Failure to disclose can cost you a government contract. (Reuters)
  • Uber whistleblower comes forward. (WaPo)
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Compliance Week Conference Podcast

Mary Inman on How Global Companies Are Responding to the EU Whistleblower Protection Directive

In this episode of the Compliance Week 2022 Preview Podcasts series, Mary will discuss some of her presentation at Compliance Week 2022 “How Global Companies Are Responding to the EU Whistleblower Protection Directive”. Some of the issues she will discuss in this podcast and her presentation are:

  • Understand how to comply with both the EU Whistleblower Directive and GDPR requirements around call recordings, interview notes, records, and whistleblower rights to privacy
  • Learn how to run a Data Privacy Impact Assessment (DPIA)
  • Discover where requirements between the EU Whistleblower Directive and data privacy regulations conflict with each other

In this first full compliance conference in over 2 years, I hope you can join me at Compliance Week 2022. This year’s event will be May 16-18 at the JW Marriott in Washington DC. The line-up of this year’s event is simply first rate with some of the top ethics and compliance practitioners around.

Gain insights and make connections at the industry’s premier cross-industry national compliance event offering knowledge-packed, accredited sessions and take-home advice from the most influential leaders in the compliance community. Back for its 17th year, compliance, ethics, legal, and audit professionals will gather safely face-to-face to benchmark best practices and gain the latest tactics and strategies to enhance their compliance programs. and many others to:

  • Network with your peers, including C-suite executives, legal professionals, HR leaders and ethics and compliance visionaries.
  • Hear from 75+ respected cross-industry practitioners who are CEOs, CCOs, regulators, federal officials, and practitioners to help inform and shape the strategic direction of your enterprise risk management program.
  • Hear directly from the two SEC Commissioners and gain insights into the agency’s areas of enforcement and walk away with guidance on how to remain compliant within emerging areas such as ESG disclosure, third-party risk management, cybersecurity, cryptocurrency and more.
  • Bring actionable takeaways back to your program from various session types including ESG, Human Trafficking, Board obligations and many others for you to listen, learn and share.
  • The goal of Compliance Week is to arm you with information, strategy and tactics to transform your organization and your career by connecting ethics to business performance through process augmentation and data visualization.

I hope you can join me at the event. For information on the event, click here. As an extra benefit to listeners of this podcast, Compliance Week is offering a $200 discount off the registration price. Enter discount code discount code TFLAW $200 OFF.

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This Week in FCPA

Episode 296 – the Slap Seen ‘Round the World edition


On this April Fool’s Day for 2022, Tom and Jay are back to look at some of the week’s top compliance and ethics stories in the Slap Seen ‘Round the World edition.
 Stories

  1. The Slap Seen ‘Round the World and Compliance. Tom in FCPA Compliance and Ethics Blog.
  2. Will CCOs have to certify compliance? Text of Kenneth Polite speech. Tom and Matt in Compliance into the Weeds. Matt in Radical Compliance.
  3. Coal exec indicted under the FCPA. Harry Cassin in the FCPA Blog.
  4. Good bribes. Dick Cassin in the FCPA Blog.
  5. Why controls are key to compliance. Chris Audet in CCI.
  6. MarshMac UK sub garners Declination with Disgorgement. Dylan Tokar in WSJ Risk & Compliance Journal.
  7. ZTE whistleblower feared for his life. Ashley Yablon in CCI.
  8. Whistleblowing keys. Jan Stampers In Risk and Compliance Matters.
  9. Fine line between compliance and evasion of OFAC sanctions. Mike Volkov in Corruption Crime and Compliance.
  10. ISSB delivers sustainability guidelines. IFRS Press Release.

Podcasts and More

  1. What is the intersection of Sports and Ethics? Each year, Jason Meyer holds Ethics Madness, a discussion of this intersection done during March Madness. This year, Jason engaged Tom for Ethics Madness in the podcast format. It was cross-posted on Jason’s site Eight Mindsets, which he co-hosts with Nicole Rose and on Tom’s site, Greetings and Felicitations.
  2. Tom has a two part series with Aly McDevitt on her recent Ransomware case study, on Greetings and Felicitations, Part 1 and Part 2.
  3. Why should you attend Compliance Week 2022? Find out on this episode of From the Editor’s Desk. Listeners get a $200 discount to CW 2022 with the code Fox200. More here.
  4. Tom visits with longtime MS 150 rider Alan Peterson on The Hill Country Podcast. Donate to the fight against MS here.
  5. Why should compliance lead corporate ESG? Kristy Grant-Hart explains on the ESG Compliance Podcast.
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Innovation in Compliance

Why People Don’t Whistleblow with Ian Foxley


Tom Fox welcomes Ian Foxley to this week’s episode of the Innovation in Compliance Podcast. Ian is well-known for his work as a whistleblower in the Airbus GPT corruption scandal in Saudi Arabia, and is now the founder and CEO of Parrhesia Inc. In this episode, Tom and Ian talk about why individuals have a hard time speaking up, what needs to change within organizations, and what needs to be done to protect whistleblowers.  

Parrhesia 
Parrhesia is the principle of affording protection by the powerful to the vulnerable in exchange for vital information. It is this principle that Ian founded his company on. It is also a principle that Ian finds to be absent from the modern business world. “If you don’t allow people to question what rulers are doing you end up with autocracy,” he tells Tom. People need to be allowed to ask questions, and if the situation demands it, whistleblow, so that individuals in charge can take stock of their behaviour and change accordingly. Parrhesia is a social contract between an organization and an individual. 
Why The Whistle Isn’t Blown
Whistleblowing is about two things: declaring the information, and guarding the corporate/individual reputation. The number one root cause as to why individuals don’t come forward when they have knowledge of corruption is fear. They are scared of losing their jobs, their homes, their health and in some cases their families. Ian lists four other reasons why whistleblowing doesn’t occur:

  • Individuals fear that speaking up is not going to be effective.
  • Guilt because of complicity, and fear of possible legal action against themselves.
  • They’re not brave enough to, but assuage their guilt by hindering or delaying processes within the organizations.
  • They believe their actions are for the greater good.

Change The Culture
Tom asks Ian what companies can do to alleviate the fear whistleblowers feel so that they can be comfortable with speaking out. “Unless you can change the culture across a number of companies and organizations, the fear will always be present,” Ian stresses. There needs to be more positive examples of whistleblowers retaining their careers, their sense of identity, and their sense of worth to society after disclosing wrongdoing, or the culture will never change. The fear will always exist. The education has to change and the organizational mindset has to change. 
To The Future
“In order to change the world, you have to lose your ego,” Ian says in response to Tom’s question on the future of whistleblowing. In the next phase of corporate existence, whistleblowers have to spread their message. They have to bring people with them and show them that they can fight, and more importantly, win.
Resources
Ian Foxley | LinkedIn | Twitter
Parrhesia Inc